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Poor guy...Georgia Tech safety
Posted on 9/23/12 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 9/23/12 at 1:09 pm
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Posted on 9/23/12 at 1:12 pm to tiggergirl
Can someone explain why that is a safety?
Posted on 9/23/12 at 1:13 pm to tiggergirl
This post was edited on 2/6/13 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 9/23/12 at 1:14 pm to tiggergirl
Really dumb play. But why should that be a safety.
Posted on 9/23/12 at 1:14 pm to DollaChoppa
I'm assuming it's because he broke the plane with his hand (and the ball it looks like) and then his knee went down in the end zone (doesn't have to be touched in college).
ETA: At first I thought it was just his hand that came out but it looks like he did cross the plane with the ball before putting his knee down.
That sucks.
ETA: At first I thought it was just his hand that came out but it looks like he did cross the plane with the ball before putting his knee down.
That sucks.
This post was edited on 9/23/12 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 9/23/12 at 1:15 pm to DollaChoppa
quote:
Can someone explain why that is a safety?
I figured the ball would be spotted where it was when his knee went down; at the 1" line.
Posted on 9/23/12 at 1:15 pm to tiggergirl
Guy is going to be heart broken but at the end of the day it is just a game and I hope that guy will be okay. Sucks to be that guy you kno.
Posted on 9/23/12 at 1:15 pm to DollaChoppa
ball crossed out of the end zone, and then back in
by rule it's a safety
by rule it's a safety
Posted on 9/23/12 at 1:15 pm to DollaChoppa
i think because ball crossed the plane
Posted on 9/23/12 at 1:15 pm to BluegrassBelle
two chicks in this thread
anybody mind if I hardleg?
anybody mind if I hardleg?
Posted on 9/23/12 at 1:16 pm to Cold Pizza
quote:his knee didn't go down until it had passed back into the end zone... it doesn't have to be all the way in, just break the plane
I figured the ball would be spotted where it was when his knee went down; at the 1" line.
Posted on 9/23/12 at 1:17 pm to baytiger
It's all very weird and kinda brings up the inconsistencies regarding the rules on where balls are spotted/breaking the plane/forward progress, etc
Posted on 9/23/12 at 1:22 pm to DollaChoppa
The rule itself still makes sense even when you're talking about breaking the plane. At the very least half of his body comes out with the ball. You just don't ever see it happen like that.
But I agree on the inconsistencies across the board though.
But I agree on the inconsistencies across the board though.
Posted on 9/23/12 at 1:23 pm to Kafka
Well aren't you the gentlemen asking for permission. 
Posted on 9/23/12 at 1:27 pm to DollaChoppa
there has to be defensive contact for forward progress.
imagine that he had ran out to the 20 yard line, then back to the endzone and then took a knee.
thats basically what happened; just on a smaller scale.
imagine that he had ran out to the 20 yard line, then back to the endzone and then took a knee.
thats basically what happened; just on a smaller scale.
Posted on 9/23/12 at 1:31 pm to Lester Earl
Yea, I'm not using forward progress an an excuse here. Just saying these rules are always confusing because they are inconsistent.
I just want to know what the rule says about safeties because Idk what it is. Body part, ball breaking the plane, entire ball crossing the goal line, etc
I was wondering last night during the LSU game. Id assume the entire ball has to cross the goal line for the rules to be consistent.
I just want to know what the rule says about safeties because Idk what it is. Body part, ball breaking the plane, entire ball crossing the goal line, etc
I was wondering last night during the LSU game. Id assume the entire ball has to cross the goal line for the rules to be consistent.
This post was edited on 9/23/12 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 9/23/12 at 2:05 pm to DollaChoppa
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I just want to know what the rule says about safeties because Idk what it is. Body part, ball breaking the plane, entire ball crossing the goal line, etc
From what I've read it has to do with when the ball is declared dead and the reason for it being dead.
quote:
ARTICLE 1. It is a safety when: a. The ball becomes dead out of bounds behind a goal line, except from an incomplete forward pass, or becomes dead in the possession of a player on, above or behind his own goal line, or becomes dead by rule, and the defending team is responsible for the ball being there (A.R. 6-3-1-IV; A.R. 7-2-4-I; A.R. 8-5-1-I-II, IV and VI-VIII; A.R. 8-7-2-II; and A.R. 9-4-1-VIII). When in question, it is a touchback, not a safety.
Then this is said about a touchback:
quote:
ARTICLE 1. It is a touchback when: a. The ball becomes dead out of bounds behind a goal line, except from an incomplete forward pass, or becomes dead in the possession of a player on, above or behind his own goal line and the attacking team is responsible for the ball being there (Rules 7-2-4-a and b) (A.R. 7-2-4-I, A.R. 8-6-1-I and II, and A.R. 10-2-2-XVI). b. A kick becomes dead by rule behind the defending team’s goal line and the attacking team is responsible for the ball being there (Exception: Rule 8-4- 2-b) (A.R. 6-3-4-III).
This is said about when a received kick comes into live play:
quote:
Free Kick Caught or Recovered
ARTICLE 6. a. If a free kick is caught or recovered by a player of the receiving
team, the ball continues in play (Exceptions: Rules 4-1-3-g, 6-1-7, and 6-5-1
and 2). If caught or recovered by a player of the kicking team, the ball becomes
dead. The ball belongs to the receiving team at the dead-ball spot, unless the
kicking team is in legal possession when the ball is declared dead. In the latter
case, the ball belongs to the kicking team
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It's about as clear as fricking mud. I didn't have the patience to find what it specifically says about the ball crossing the plane.
Posted on 9/23/12 at 3:22 pm to BluegrassBelle
quote:
t's about as clear as fricking mud. I didn't have the patience to find what it specifically says about the ball crossing the plane.
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