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Pitching to Sac bunt
Posted on 3/4/16 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 3/4/16 at 11:47 pm
Why do pitchers just let batters bunt the ball these days. For the last several years I've noticed that the pitchers just throw regular pitches when they know the sac bunt is coming. What happened to pitchers throwing the ball high and tight in a sac bunt situation. Greater chance for easy pop out and gets in the batters head but nobody does it anymore. Thoughts?
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Posted on 3/4/16 at 11:50 pm to Murtown
Because it's better to take the out. Bunting is incredibly idiotic.
Posted on 3/4/16 at 11:58 pm to lsu31always
Of course you want the out but it makes it harder for them to lay a good bunt when you aren't throwing it right down the middle
Posted on 3/5/16 at 12:01 am to Murtown
i would love to see the numbers on how many batters actually reach first base on a sac bunt. youre overthinking it. make your pitch, field it, take the free out, and say thank you
Posted on 3/5/16 at 12:04 am to Murtown
quote:
Why do pitchers just let batters bunt the ball these days. For the last several years I've noticed that the pitchers just throw regular pitches when they know the sac bunt is coming. What happened to pitchers throwing the ball high and tight in a sac bunt situation. Greater chance for easy pop out and gets in the batters head but nobody does it anymore. Thoughts?
Honestly, my first thought was how do we know this is true? I'm not saying it isn't, but it seems like it would be hard to prove. I'm not doubting that you have observed this, but it seems like anecdotal evidence. There are around 200,000 plays in MLB in a season, is there any evidence to support this?
Posted on 3/5/16 at 12:05 am to WestCoastAg
It's not really overthinking it it's the proper way to play it. You increase your chances of a pop uo for sure. I do think the bunt is way overused. Only bunting that should be done if it isn't tight towards the end of the game is first and second with no outs. The bunting a guy from second to third with no outs drives me nuts
Posted on 3/5/16 at 12:07 am to The Seaward
I was referencing college. I rarely watch pro ball. I watch every lsu game though and it just isn't pitched the way it used to be
Posted on 3/5/16 at 12:08 am to lsu31always
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Because it's better to take the out. Bunting is incredibly idiotic.
This. Just take the out. More bad than good can come from throwing it high and in
Posted on 3/5/16 at 12:08 am to Murtown
quote:except it its. you are trying too hard to hard to play situation correctly when the obvious answer is right in front of you. just get the pitch over the plate, let them lay it down, and then take the out at first. sure, i would like to get him to pop the ball up to keep the runner at first, or god forbid on second if someone is actually sacrificing someone to third, but i would much rather not frick something else up while trying to play such an inherently easy situation correctly
It's not really overthinking it it's the proper way to play it.
Posted on 3/5/16 at 12:10 am to WestCoastAg
I guess I just want to challenge the hitters idk. Guess I'm not a moneyball guy
Posted on 3/5/16 at 12:16 am to Murtown
quote:but the thing is you dont need to. they are literally just giving you an out. there is no need to challenge the hitter
I guess I just want to challenge the hitters idk.
Posted on 3/5/16 at 12:38 am to WestCoastAg
There are only 27 outs in a game, so when a team gifts you one, you take it. I'd much rather take the out then miss slightly on the pitch and hit the guy. Then instead of taking a free out, you put another runner on base. There's not many pitchers at the college level I would trust to consistently put the ball up and in on a squared batter and not hit him occasionally.
Posted on 3/5/16 at 12:44 am to Murtown
Bunting is very dumb.
Posted on 3/5/16 at 12:47 am to volfan30
and people are finally starting to realize that. i cant wait until we get to the point where we dont contain certain pitchers to only closing situations and we actually let your best pitcher out of the pen pitch in the highest leverage situation
Posted on 3/5/16 at 12:59 am to WestCoastAg
Why would you burn your best reliever in the 7th with the bases loaded in a tie game? Then who will get the 7-8-9 hitter out with a potential 3 run lead in the 9th?
This post was edited on 3/5/16 at 1:04 am
Posted on 3/5/16 at 1:06 am to The Seaward
quote:because what if that never happens? what if the bases are loaded in the 7th, you send out a pitcher who isnt your best, and he gives up a grand slam. then the 9th inning doesnt matter. you should use your best pitcher as the situation arises. not hold him back in case a situation might happen
Then who will get the 7-8-9 hitter out with a potential 3 run lead in the 9th?
This post was edited on 3/5/16 at 1:07 am
Posted on 3/5/16 at 1:08 am to WestCoastAg
I was joking. I agree with you. If I remember correctly we both critizied Mattingly for refusing to use Jansen in jams before the 9th in the playoffs last year.
Posted on 3/5/16 at 1:09 am to The Seaward
Posted on 3/5/16 at 1:11 am to WestCoastAg
ive always found it interesting that it has taken the rise of metrics for sports to accept some pretty straight forward concepts. all of the stuff that has come up from baseball in regards to bunting and hopefully bullpen management, what we have found out in basketball regarding how much more incredibly efficient the three point shot is, etc. all of these seem like we should have figured this stuff out a while ago
Posted on 3/5/16 at 1:27 am to Murtown
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For the last several years I've noticed that the pitchers just throw regular pitches when they know the sac bunt is coming. What happened to pitchers throwing the ball high and tight in a sac bunt situation.
Bunting is about the dumbest thing managers still do. Take the out they're giving you.
The only time I was ever taught to elevate the ball on a bunt attempt is a squeeze
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