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Pete Carroll responds to sanctions

Posted on 6/10/10 at 5:27 pm
Posted by Grabo
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 5:27 pm
LINK

Don't know if it's already been posted.
This post was edited on 6/10/10 at 5:28 pm
Posted by secfan123
beverly hills
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 5:28 pm to
Yeah he "never thought it would come to this" because the sonofabitch never thought they would get caught. Oh, and Pete. Its not "what the University knew" its what the University SHOULD HAVE KNOWN you political sack of shite.
This post was edited on 6/10/10 at 5:30 pm
Posted by el tigre
your heart
Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 5:32 pm to
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Oh, and Pete. Its not "what the University knew" its what the University SHOULD HAVE KNOWN you political sack of shite.


i don't get why people try to defend USC by saying they didn't know, or it wasn't a USC employee giving Bush $$.

the standard is, and has been for years, what a reasonably well run ath dept and it's staff SHOULD know about. Ignorance or false ignorance is not an excuse.
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
45721 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 5:33 pm to
Isn't part of the issue that the university has no control over their program and is unaware of what going on right under their noses? He should probably just STFU. Noticed he blew out of town before everything was released.
Posted by Bankshot
Member since Jun 2006
5374 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

the standard is, and has been for years, what a reasonably well run ath dept and it's staff SHOULD know about. Ignorance or false ignorance is not an excuse.


Coaching staffs know when the former player and agent-types are hanging around. USC's practices were attended by these guys all the time. Miami had the same kind of things happening in the early 90's.
Posted by Grabo
Member since Dec 2008
1123 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 5:39 pm to
"I'm extremely dissapointed that we have to deal with this right now."



Not much to deal with when you run away from the mess you created.
Posted by Crimsonpanther13
Somewhere in Avoyelles Parish
Member since Oct 2008
7222 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 5:45 pm to
I never did like that dude. Ever since he whined and bitched for not getting into the '03 title game.
Posted by secfan123
beverly hills
Member since Jan 2010
9646 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

the standard is, and has been for years, what a reasonably well run ath dept and it's staff SHOULD know about. Ignorance or false ignorance is not an excuse.


Thats becuase you could have boosters giving money on the sly while the University denies knowledge- no one would ever get caught becuase proving knowledge without subpoena power is nearly impossible
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 6:05 pm to
Pete's house in Seattle is going to burn to the ground
Posted by BamaChick
Terminus
Member since Dec 2008
21393 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

i don't get why people try to defend USC by saying they didn't know, or it wasn't a USC employee giving Bush $$.

the standard is, and has been for years, what a reasonably well run ath dept and it's staff SHOULD know about. Ignorance or false ignorance is not an excuse.



Exactly. And that is the very definition of "lack of institutional control".
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
18746 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 6:09 pm to
I can't believe what a liar No Pete is. We saw it with the Sanchez deal but this is just blatant. What a bag of shite. Of course Kiffy is acting like no biggie.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
18746 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

"I'm extremely dissapointed that we have to deal with this right now."



Not much to deal with when you run away from the mess you created.


Exactly. We, what a punk
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 6:16 pm to
This explains the USC douche culture. It started with him at the top.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68032 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 6:34 pm to
What he's thinking..."Why do you guys think I hauled arse outta that shithole. HeHe, they don't know the half of it!"
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30353 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 6:37 pm to
Who is this "we" he keeps referring to? He ditched them as soon as he realized how bad they would be punished.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 6:37 pm to
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 6:43 pm to
From page 30 of the infractions:
quote:

There was information in the record that the former head football coach encouraged sports marketer A to hire student-athletes as interns.

A current NFLPA certified agent ("sports agent B") is the chairman of a sports agency and a colleague of sports marketer A.

He reported that the former head football coach asked sports marketer A to consider hiring football student-athletes as interns in his agency.


....and from his video:

quote:

This is a clear cut case of external elements outside of the university setting entering in and disrupting the process of the young student-athletes going to college, for their gain.


How "vigilant" was Carroll when he encouraged the external elements to hire his players?
This post was edited on 6/10/10 at 6:43 pm
Posted by tigerguy121
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2006
10695 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

There was information in the record that the former head football coach encouraged sports marketer A to hire student-athletes as interns.


Yet USC fans till today just couldn't figure out how Michael Ornstein hiring USC players should have been a tip off to the staff to take a closer look.
Posted by el tigre
your heart
Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

A current NFLPA certified agent ("sports agent B") is the chairman of a sports agency and a colleague of sports marketer A.

He reported that the former head football coach asked sports marketer A to consider hiring football student-athletes as interns in his agency.


Orny!!!!!! that's what i have been screaming that would get them the hammer, good to see that he was brought into the investigation. Dirty SOB.
Posted by tigerguy121
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2006
10695 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

Orny!!!!!! that's what i have been screaming that would get them the hammer, good to see that he was brought into the investigation. Dirty SOB


From a Yahoo article. Just FYI

quote:

“There is a systemic problem facing college athletes today: unscrupulous sports agents and sports marketers,” Todd Dickey, USC’s senior vice president for administration, said in a statement. “The question is how do we identify them and keep them away from our student-athletes?”

Considering that one of the market agents central to the case, Michael Ornstein, employed Reggie Bush as a summer intern prior to his junior season, it doesn’t seem like USC was too concerned about keeping anything away from their student athletes.

Did USC know about Ornstein? “We went through SC, went through the compliance office,” Ornstein told Yahoo! Sports in 2006. “We are allowed to pay the guy for 20 hours a week, $8 an hour. All of the paperwork is filed. It was just something we wanted to do to help Pete Carroll because they always are looking for summer jobs.”

USC may need a new defense.
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