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re: Penn State vacates all wins from 1998-2011, 4 year postseason ban, $73M fine

Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:38 am to
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40925 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:38 am to
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he never would have beat bowden.


or Eddie, more importantly to this state
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:38 am to
NCAA considering waiving scholarship limits for programs to which players transfer, provided they reduce proportionately in the next year
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15407 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:39 am to
You are comparing the two. I was simply using an analogy.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10433 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:39 am to
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I understand that, but had they done the right thing


Agreed.
However, not NCAA is in the business of policing schools and making sure they do the "right thing" instead of keeping the playing field level for competing schools.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38119 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:39 am to
USC was limited to 15 schollies for 3 years...this is only 1 year longer...this doesn't seem like enough to me.

Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
33488 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:41 am to
Ohio State is now the 2005 and 2008 outright Big Ten champs
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:41 am to
I thought it'd be at least 5 years and upwards of 7-8.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23141 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:41 am to
Can someone explain to me under what authority the NCAA is levying these punishments? This has nothing to do with competition, amateur status, cheating etc. these are criminal acts. Its what we have criminal and civil courts for. Has the NCAA ever done this before?

Analogy: Some high level administrator is found to have embezzled millions from LSU athletics over the course of 20 years. The NCAA can come in and kill the football program?

I don't get this at all. Huge power grab by the NCAA. Reminds me of Rahms "never let a crisis go to waste"
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:42 am to
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DIAF. this is about changing the culture of a program and showing the world you cannot put your football program over the well being of human life.


Bull...it's about expansion of power that affects everyone. I love how everyone sees this Penn State situation in a total vacuum and doesn't realize the NCAA just "George Orwell'd" the entire armature athletics and college football landscape. They can vacate for any "bad" or publically negative reason now and they don't even need to give you a hearing. C'est la vie. Goodbye due process.

Don't bitch and moan when your program is getting the raw end of the stick. Bunch of Schadenfreude hypocrites. Some of you for blood are totally pathetic.
This post was edited on 7/23/12 at 8:43 am
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38119 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:42 am to
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I thought it'd be at least 5 years and upwards of 7-8.


that would have been deserved
Posted by 10888bge
H-Town
Member since Aug 2011
8421 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:42 am to
Baseball bout to blow up on campus at PSU
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10433 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:42 am to
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DIAF. this is about changing the culture of a program and showing the world you cannot put your football program over the well being of human life.


I guess some of us misunderstood the mission of the NCAA.

Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:42 am to
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Ohio State is now the 2005 and 2008 outright Big Ten champs


Ohio State would still be co champs, but with no one. This is all very confusing.
Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
Member since Nov 2009
10569 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:43 am to
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This has nothing to do with competition, amateur status, cheating etc. these are criminal acts. Its what we have criminal and civil courts for.


agreed
Posted by FightOn4ever
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2012
1503 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:43 am to
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USC was limited to 15 schollies for 3 years...this is only 1 year longer...this doesn't seem like enough to me.

Yup. I brought this up in another thread yesterday and was crucified. The overwhelming consensus was penalties would be much much worse.

As I said earlier in this thread
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In terms of schollies, bowl ban, and probation, not too much more than USC got for bush taking money from a wannabe agent and felon and one assistant coach covering it up. Double bowl ban, one more year of 15 yearly a schollie limits, and 65 instead of 75. Real tough NCAA.

I will now say Told ya so.
This post was edited on 7/23/12 at 8:46 am
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43891 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:43 am to
This is essentially death penalty light. It will be interesting how this shapes out in the appeals process. I haven't kept up with much yesterday other than the report I read last night.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40949 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:43 am to
B1G 10 press conference in 15 minutes. They will announce their sanctions at that time.
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:44 am to
B1G is sanctioning PSU in addition to NCAA?
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43891 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:45 am to
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NCAA considering waiving scholarship limits for programs to which players transfer, provided they reduce proportionately in the next year


I thought that was a done deal. Sportsbybrooks and a few of the other twitter nerds were discussing this morning.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40949 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:45 am to
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Penn State's punishment isn't complete. Big Ten will now unveil it's sanctions.


Correct.
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