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Orgeron confuses me
Posted on 9/30/17 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 9/30/17 at 10:39 pm
Ed Orgeron record as interim HC: 12-4
Ed Orgeron record as full-time HC: 13-29
An interim by nature should be a harder position to be in let alone win. I just don’t understand. Does he seize up whenever the pressure is on as a HC? Just bizarre.
Ed Orgeron record as full-time HC: 13-29
An interim by nature should be a harder position to be in let alone win. I just don’t understand. Does he seize up whenever the pressure is on as a HC? Just bizarre.
This post was edited on 9/30/17 at 10:52 pm
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Posted on 9/30/17 at 10:44 pm to okietiger
See Sam Allardyce
Yes it's a Soccer Reference. But the guy has had multiple instances of coming in to coach a team that should be dead last into pulling multiple upsets and preventing the team from being banished to a crappier league.
Sometimes having a coach that can whip the boys into playing at their potential is all you need to win.
Recruiting said players, that's another matter altogether.
Yes it's a Soccer Reference. But the guy has had multiple instances of coming in to coach a team that should be dead last into pulling multiple upsets and preventing the team from being banished to a crappier league.
Sometimes having a coach that can whip the boys into playing at their potential is all you need to win.
Recruiting said players, that's another matter altogether.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 10:44 pm to okietiger
As interim he beats only the teams with less talent. Players responded to his rah rah nature after two lame duck coaches got run out before him. Probably takes a whole summer for the players to realize he's just the substitute teacher.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 10:44 pm to okietiger
When your program is down and you need a spark to light a fire under the players, he's your guy.
When your program needs a full time head coach, he's fricking clueless.
When your program needs a full time head coach, he's fricking clueless.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 10:44 pm to okietiger
Same reason a team in the NBA usually plays better without its star player for like a game or two and then tanks. Emotion can only take you so far.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 10:51 pm to okietiger
Lsu should announce their intention to hire a new head coach in the offseason, change O’s title back to interim head coach, and pay him his buyout. Then watch go 6-2 to finish the season and rehire him rehire him as their new head coach.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 10:53 pm to beaverfever
Posted on 9/30/17 at 10:54 pm to GoldenGuy
I'm sorry. Big Sam was a great coach at Bolton for a long time. He had Bolton playing really good. O cannot come close to Big sam. Remember the bolton team with JJ okacha, Speed,
Posted on 9/30/17 at 10:56 pm to okietiger
I don't think this is that crazy. In a lot of sports, players seem to unite under an interim coach and do fine. A necessary change is made and players who might not like or respect the old coach rally and start performing well short-term.
ETA: It seems easier to get guys excited for a few games than to get them to buy in to the direction you have for the program.
ETA: It seems easier to get guys excited for a few games than to get them to buy in to the direction you have for the program.
This post was edited on 9/30/17 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 9/30/17 at 11:07 pm to okietiger
He went 6-2, 6-1 in the Pac at USC and they didn't lift the interim tag. They knew why, and USC isn't even a model of a functioning athletic department. This was nepotism on a BYU level.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 11:12 pm to okietiger
He confuses himself.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 11:20 pm to okietiger
Orgeron gets confused by his own reflection
Posted on 9/30/17 at 11:27 pm to wildtigercat93
Posted on 9/30/17 at 11:56 pm to okietiger
I made this point when people were wanting to hire Orgeron after Miles was fired:
Yeah, Orgeron does well when he is the interim, but he's simply filling in. The other coach is the one who laid the foundation in the spring, summer, and into the season. Les Miles was the one who built the team and the program around him. Orgeron came in to substitute on the back of what Les built.
I questioned how Orgeron would do on his own when the program was his. Maybe he learned from his past mistakes I thought... or maybe it was the other coaches programs that were successful that he was riding the coattails of and he simply provided a spark.
That was my thinking before the hire, and it seems now that my intuition was correct, that he was simply a spark and it was the other coaches who built the foundation of success.
Yeah, Orgeron does well when he is the interim, but he's simply filling in. The other coach is the one who laid the foundation in the spring, summer, and into the season. Les Miles was the one who built the team and the program around him. Orgeron came in to substitute on the back of what Les built.
I questioned how Orgeron would do on his own when the program was his. Maybe he learned from his past mistakes I thought... or maybe it was the other coaches programs that were successful that he was riding the coattails of and he simply provided a spark.
That was my thinking before the hire, and it seems now that my intuition was correct, that he was simply a spark and it was the other coaches who built the foundation of success.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:08 am to okietiger
LSU has lost a lot of players from last years team. A few of them to the NFL. Major turnover matters.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:10 am to airfernando
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LSU has lost a lot of players from last years team. A few of them to the NFL. Major turnover matters.
Seems like we never had that big of an issue with turnover for the 12-15 years before this one
I wonder what changed
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:15 am to okietiger
The most consistent thing about him is his teams get worse as his tenure lengthens.
His interim record isn't horrendous but does get over-rated. Miles was fired when he was last year because he was expected to win almost all of the remaining games. You'd think the Florida game would have ended O's chances but here we are.
His interim record isn't horrendous but does get over-rated. Miles was fired when he was last year because he was expected to win almost all of the remaining games. You'd think the Florida game would have ended O's chances but here we are.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:48 am to saintsfan22
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As interim he beats only the teams with less talent
This does not stand. We are not beating teams with less talent now. We are losing to them. BADLY. It is not the same
Last year we gave Bama everything we had. Came close to even beating them almost. Now
We came close to beating fricking Troy...
This team is a complete 180 from last year. The team played great under O's interim stint. Now, not even close.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 10:03 am to airfernando
The talent loss argument- it’s not about talent when you lose to Troy. That game was all about effort and discipline or lack there of. Coaches have to accept responsibility but the players failed last night.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 10:07 am to GoldenGuy
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See Sam Allardyce
Love him, miss him.
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