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Posted on 11/30/12 at 7:51 am
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/30/12 at 7:51 am
What are your thoughts on Ryan and the Falcons?

I'm not "sold" (like most of the country), and last night was a perfect example of why.

Ryan played poorly, whether him or OL or scheming is debatable. And against a defense that is mediocre at best.

Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16431 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 7:58 am to
I would also like to see what non Saints and Falcons fans think of him. But seeing as how this is an LSU/Louisiana website, you wont get many of them.
Posted by biglil3
West Monroe
Member since Jan 2010
2049 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:00 am to
I agree, I think ATL is posing again! I'm not a Saints fan, this is just an observation.
I would favor New York,San Fran and Green Bay in the G-Dome as of today
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6364 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:02 am to
quote:

I'm not "sold" (like most of the country), and last night was a perfect example of why.


I think they play a weak schedule. They've only played two teams with a winning record (Denver, Tampa), and only have two teams left on the schedule with a winning record (NYG, Tampa). A good number of their opponents aren't likely to finish with a winning record either.

If they played Denver now, it'd be a different ball game.
This post was edited on 11/30/12 at 8:04 am
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:07 am to
I would put them below SF and Chicago at this point, without question.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52147 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:11 am to
quote:

I'm not "sold" (like most of the country), and last night was a perfect example of why.
The Saints had 5 turnovers and screwed themselves out of scoring atleast a FG before halftime and they still almost beat the Falcons. That about sums it up
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6534 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:15 am to
49er fan here.
If the 49ers can't get the #1 seed, then I feel best about the 49ers chances if the Falcons have the #1 seed.

I think some people are discounting the Falcons ability to find a way to win in close games. The 49ers couldn't agaisnt the Vikings and then were outplayed entirely by the Giants.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25081 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:24 am to
As a Texans fan, I think their record speaks for themselves.

They are a good team and have won some close games which is usually the mark of a good team.

Do I think they are the best team in the NFL? No, but I don't think the Texans are either.

At any 1 week this season, the Packers, Texans, 49ers, Falcons, Giants and even the Broncos have looked like the best team in the league.

ETA: Patriots as well

It's just going to come down to who gets hot at the right time.
This post was edited on 11/30/12 at 8:34 am
Posted by LSU Piston
The 313
Member since Feb 2008
3844 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:29 am to
quote:

Opinion sought from non Falcons or Saints fans


<<------ Lions fan


I would take a healthy Chi (with Cutler), GB, NYG, and SF over Atl, IMO.

Posted by Sanchito
Member since Apr 2012
995 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:36 am to
Going 11-1 in the NFL speaks volumes for this team. I am probably one of the few that thinks all these close games are an advantage for them. It instills confidence that you can win games late. Different sport, but the 2010 Giants in MLB showed that. I Would only rank San Fran over them in the NFC at this point.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:41 am to
As a Pats fan, I'm not sold on Ryan at all. He has two elite WR's, a great TE and a solid defense to back him up. He should be putting up crazy numbers, but isn't.
Posted by Waffle House
NYC
Member since Aug 2008
3945 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:44 am to
I'm not sold on him until he does it in the playoffs.

They are playing poorly as always in the regular season, but I still feel pretty good about my "Giants to win the Superbowl at 25-1" ticket.
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
33488 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:46 am to
I've never been sold on Ryan. Until he does something in the playoffs, he'll continue to be just meh to me.

Eta... And as far as the Falcons go, I think that are one of the top 3 teams in the NFC, but I don't think they are as good as their record indicates.
This post was edited on 11/30/12 at 8:48 am
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:46 am to
I'm not sold, but I don't think there's a legitimately great team in the NFL, so they have just as good of a chance as anybody. I'm still trying to figure out how the Ravens are crushing their division despite being worse than they've been the last 3 or 4 years.
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
33488 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:50 am to
quote:

Ravens are crushing their division despite being worse than they've been the last 3 or 4 years.

Big Ben's injury isn't helping things. Still can't believe they lost 2 weeks ago to them when the defense never gave up a TD.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:52 am to
They look like a classic 13-3 team that will lose in the first round of the playoffs.
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
6925 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:54 am to
As an outsider, Ryan is sort of 'the best of the rest', behind the Big 4. The Falcons have an outstanding record, but they resemble the Ravens in a lot of ways-- they've built it with very good situational play, and a schedule that has broken favorably-- but I don't see them as the best team in the NFC.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64945 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:55 am to
The Falcons are 11-1. That should count for something, weak schedule or no. This is the NFL, not college football. Any team can beat you on any given Sunday. They may not be as explosive as New England or as physical as San Francisco, but they get the job done. And this is a Niners fan talking right here.

I think we should wait until the playoffs before we pass final judgment on the Falcons. I think they can win the Divisional round. The NFC Championship Game though? That's another matter entirely.

Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 9:00 am to
quote:

The Falcons have an outstanding record, but they resemble the Ravens in a lot of ways-- they've built it with very good situational play, and a schedule that has broken favorably

to be fair, the Ravens usually have a tough schedule because they always make the playoffs and end up playing the Patriots every year, it seems. But while I see where you coming from, the Falcons and Ravens are pretty different (Ryan is far better than Flacco, but the Ravens have a much better run game). However, I do like how the Falcons corners play so physical. That's Ravens-esque. A defense that toes the line of legality with its physical play (though this is the worst Ravens defense in a decade).

Every team is deeply flawed. The Packers can't play defense. The Giants just aren't that great, just the luckiest team on earth. The Bears are falling apart. OK, I guess the Niners are the team to beat. But none of the NFC contenders are all that frightening. Why not the Falcons? They are balanced, which can pay off in the playoffs.
Posted by LSU Piston
The 313
Member since Feb 2008
3844 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 9:09 am to
quote:

to be fair, the Ravens usually have a tough schedule because they always make the playoffs and end up playing the Patriots every year, it seems. But while I see where you coming from, the Falcons and Ravens are pretty different (Ryan is far better than Flacco, but the Ravens have a much better run game). However, I do like how the Falcons corners play so physical. That's Ravens-esque. A defense that toes the line of legality with its physical play (though this is the worst Ravens defense in a decade).

Every team is deeply flawed. The Packers can't play defense. The Giants just aren't that great, just the luckiest team on earth. The Bears are falling apart. OK, I guess the Niners are the team to beat. But none of the NFC contenders are all that frightening. Why not the Falcons? They are balanced, which can pay off in the playoffs.




This is sound reasoning that is hard to disagree with. The only thing I will add is that the Bears are a totally different team with Cutler. I hate to bring up injuries, in any sport, but GB is much improved (obviously) with Matthews, Woodson, and Jennings. In terms of NYG, they have the capability like no other team of turning the 'on' switch to get to another level. Their "best" IMO, is the best in the league.
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