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Offical "I believe Al Davis" thread

Posted on 10/1/08 at 1:17 am
Posted by KGSoloMan5000
Member since Mar 2007
1685 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 1:17 am
Actually, I dont have anything more to add than that. Like the vast majority of people, I am an Al Davis-hater. However, I believe him in this situation.

Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
2904 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 7:05 am to
Overheard on Houston sport talk radio on the commute home yesterday:

When Al Davis hired Lane Kiffin, a writer for the San Jose Mercury News named Tim Kawakami questioned the wisdom of this choice. Some kind of way he ended up in a confrontantion with Davis after raising his concerns in print.

Davis then asks him "do you know who Deng Xiaping is?
Kawakami says "what? what does that have to do with anyting?"
Davis says "he was the premier of China. Why should anyone respect your opinion on football when you don't know anything about your own people's history?"
Kawakami replies "because I'm Japanese."
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37133 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 7:07 am to
The truth probably lies somewhere in between both stories. Kiffin didn't exactly answer any questions from Wingo, which tells me he probably wasn't exactly truthful. What got me about the Davis interview was he said 'I handed him a letter, then he said I fedexed the letter.' How puss of a boss to give letters to their employees instead of talking to them. Then he fired him over the phone. Pitiful...
Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
2904 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 7:12 am to
quote:

Kiffin didn't exactly answer any questions from Wingo, which tells me he probably wasn't exactly truthful.

this is probably due to the strong likelihoodt hat he's going to have to sue the organization to recover the balance of his contract.
Posted by arowana
Metairie
Member since Aug 2007
1732 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 8:33 am to
Al Davis is gansta
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 9:07 am to
I think Al Davis is a crazy old man who has ruined one of the best franchises in the NFL


that being said, I believed him yesterday as well, don't ask me why but I did.
Posted by Hollywood7 Tiger
Hollywood, California
Member since May 2007
4718 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 9:08 am to
i live out here, and everyone is siding with the crypt keeper...
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 9:11 am to
quote:


i live out here, and everyone is siding with the crypt keeper...



That is a surprise. I don't doubt that some of what Davis said was the truth, but Kiffin isn't the guy who has gone through 5 coaches in 6 years.
Posted by Hollywood7 Tiger
Hollywood, California
Member since May 2007
4718 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 9:13 am to
they gave kiffin his chance on espn to deny the allegations, he just sat there with a goofy look on his face
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87341 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 9:14 am to
quote:

Kiffin didn't exactly answer any questions from Wingo, which tells me he probably wasn't exactly truthful.


because he couldnt, he doesnt want to damage his court case
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 9:15 am to
quote:


they gave kiffin his chance on espn to deny the allegations, he just sat there with a goofy look on his face


Court case.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 9:27 am to
quote:

i live out here, and everyone is siding with the crypt keeper...


b/c they have a ton of homers out there.

Just like we saw yesterday in the TO thread.
Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
132775 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 10:04 am to
quote:

How puss of a boss to give letters to their employees instead of talking to them.


of all the things you could say about davis, "puss" isn't one of them .. in any professional organization, you need documentation for termination .. that's what his letter was .. if he can prove kiffin was fired for "just cause" he doesn't have to pay his contract .. that'll be the next fight ..

kiffin was way too young and not ready to be a head coach in the NFL .. i believe davis .. these mistakes made by kiffin sound like that of a guy that was in over his head ... trey wingo gave him ample opportunity to clear the air if what davis said in his letter were lies, and kiffin didn't do it ..
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150535 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 10:23 am to
quote:

because he couldnt, he doesnt want to damage his court case

Exactly, which is also why he kept bringing up the "painful for my family" angle as well. You felt like that whole interview was all one big setup for the inevitable court case.

Al Davis is gangsta though. In his interview: "I called him up and told him he would be fired. And he asked me 'Does this mean you're not gonna pay me my money?' And I said 'Yes it does.'"

Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 10:24 am to
quote:


Al Davis is gangsta though. In his interview: "I called him up and told him he would be fired. And he asked me 'Does this mean you're not gonna pay me my money?' And I said 'Yes it does.'"


That was a ploy for the support of Oakland fans.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 10:26 am to
al davis and lou holtz have to be two of the stupidest people alive. they make me fear aging
Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
132775 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 10:28 am to
quote:

al davis and lou holtz have to be two of the stupidest people alive. they make me fear aging


al davis has 10 times the brain lou holtz has ..
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 10:30 am to
he's pretty damn incompetent also
Posted by Augustus
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2006
8290 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 10:33 am to
After Al sent one of his goons after that journalist who simply asked a truthful question, I don't believe anything Al says. Unless he said, "I'm a fricking douchebag". Then I'd believe him.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110582 posts
Posted on 10/2/08 at 3:20 am to
Man, that press conference witl Davis was AWESOME. It made him look like a fool, but it was still awesome.

In a sports world where everyone always gives the PC answer and we never really know what's going on behind the scenes, it's refreshing to see Al just lay it all out there for everyone.

What a mess in Oakland.

Poor JaMarcus.
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