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NASCAR thread: Why Jeff Gordon never got his fifth cup championship?
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:43 pm
You think it was an unfavorable and arbitrary chase format or did Hendrick allocate more resources to the 48 team?
Or, did he simply peak in late 90's and was no longer a formidable driver?
Or, did he simply peak in late 90's and was no longer a formidable driver?
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:47 pm to Paul Allen
He would have more if they stuck to the prior system. At least that's what I've been told.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:57 pm to Paul Allen
He won 3 with Ray Evernham, and 1 with Robbie Loomis
If Ray would have stayed, he probably would have hit 5
Just my take
If Ray would have stayed, he probably would have hit 5
Just my take
Posted on 6/8/17 at 3:08 pm to Paul Allen
New system cost him 2 I believe
Posted on 6/8/17 at 3:12 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
quote:This.
He won 3 with Ray Evernham, and 1 with Robbie Loomis If Ray would have stayed, he probably would have hit 5
Plus after some of the things the 24 team did with Evernham on top of the pit box (The 1997 Winston T-Rex car, engine that grenaded right as he took the checkered flag and couldn't be inspected) had NASCAR keeping a tighter eye on them than other teams.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 3:23 pm to jlntiger
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New system cost him 2 I believe
This. When the 48 team was formed they took all of the 24 cars and stuck Lowes 48 on them, jj got the best equipment from the go
Posted on 6/8/17 at 3:26 pm to jlntiger
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New system cost him 2 I believe
That's what I've heard. Also heard something about Tony Stewart's champ year as an owner that he wouldn't have won it under the old system. I think he had to win several in the chase after a poor showing in the first race or two and would have been eliminated, but since they reset points he was still close enough to win it.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 3:35 pm to Paul Allen
He couldn't go right.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 4:02 pm to TU Rob
Good point
Posted on 6/8/17 at 4:07 pm to Paul Allen
LINK
Champion via Chase Champion via full-season points
2004 Kurt Busch Jeff Gordon
2005 Tony Stewart Tony Stewart
2006 Jimmie Johnson Jimmie Johnson
2007 Jimmie Johnson Jeff Gordon
2008 Jimmie Johnson Carl Edwards
2009 Jimmie Johnson Jimmie Johnson
2010 Jimmie Johnson Kevin Harvick
2011 Tony Stewart Carl Edwards
2012 Brad Keselowski Brad Keselowski
2013 Jimmie Johnson Jimmie Johnson
2014 Kevin Harvick Jeff Gordon
2015 Kyle Busch Kevin Harvick
Champion via Chase Champion via full-season points
2004 Kurt Busch Jeff Gordon
2005 Tony Stewart Tony Stewart
2006 Jimmie Johnson Jimmie Johnson
2007 Jimmie Johnson Jeff Gordon
2008 Jimmie Johnson Carl Edwards
2009 Jimmie Johnson Jimmie Johnson
2010 Jimmie Johnson Kevin Harvick
2011 Tony Stewart Carl Edwards
2012 Brad Keselowski Brad Keselowski
2013 Jimmie Johnson Jimmie Johnson
2014 Kevin Harvick Jeff Gordon
2015 Kyle Busch Kevin Harvick
Posted on 6/8/17 at 4:17 pm to TU Rob
Forgot Kurt won the inaugural chase title. I think he only won one race that year.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 4:26 pm to Paul Allen
Yeah just like Kyle winning it last year after missing half the year.
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 5:11 pm to oVo
WWL all day long
Posted on 6/8/17 at 5:12 pm to Paul Allen
I've read that he would've won at least 3 more if the old system had stayed.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 5:43 pm to Korin
Gordon could have had Johnson's crew chief.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:01 pm to TU Rob
What is everyone's thoughts on the Chase? IMO, I think it can be exciting at times because it adds some drama to the sport. I think the 2011 Chase was one of the most exciting because of the showdown between Stewart and Edwards. I think having the final 4 -winner take all format in the final race is also exciting. I think the old format of the Chase was boring especially when Johnson won 5 in a row between 2006-2010. Majority of those years, Johnson won by a decent margin and I don't think there was a ton of pressure on him. I'm not a Johnson fan but he has proven to be not only one of the best in NASCAR history but has proven how clutch he is in a playoff format. It is really crazy to think how things would have been different if they still used the old format. Gordon would have had 7, Johnson would have had 3, Edwards and Harvick with 2.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:21 pm to CobraCommander83
I loathe it
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:21 pm to jlntiger
You can't make that comparison.
If he is racing for points in the "new system" it didn't directly correlate to the same points in the "old system". Strategy is different.
The competition got better and the cars were brought to common style.
If he is racing for points in the "new system" it didn't directly correlate to the same points in the "old system". Strategy is different.
The competition got better and the cars were brought to common style.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:38 pm to TigerFred
He wouldve had 5 had he not hpt wrecked out by brad
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:52 pm to jorconalx
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When the 48 team was formed they took all of the 24 cars and stuck Lowes 48 on them, jj got the best equipment from the go
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