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re: MLB viewership down 30%...should they juice the ball?
Posted on 6/15/13 at 11:32 pm to jose canseco
Posted on 6/15/13 at 11:32 pm to jose canseco
As a St. Louis fan, I've greatly enjoyed this season, but I feel if the World Series ended right before football started back up and just keep it as a Spring/Summer sport, viewership would pick up with each game being more valuable for playoff positioning.
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Posted on 6/15/13 at 11:47 pm to Gountiss
Honestly, I wonder if MLB viewership is actually down. It might be down 30% on ESPN, Fox, and TBS but every team now has their own network to carry every single game. One of the biggest reasons for the escalating salaries the last few years has been how much teams make from their own networks. I don't know the ratings compared to 07 but it seems like these have probably increased.
There are also the online MLB packages that weren't around (or at least many fewer people were watching). I love baseball and almost never watch ESPN or Fox. But I watch my team play almost every day online and will watch parts of a few other games online or on MLB network (also not around in 07). Again, I don't know the numbers but I can't be the only baseball fan doing this.
There are also the online MLB packages that weren't around (or at least many fewer people were watching). I love baseball and almost never watch ESPN or Fox. But I watch my team play almost every day online and will watch parts of a few other games online or on MLB network (also not around in 07). Again, I don't know the numbers but I can't be the only baseball fan doing this.
Posted on 6/15/13 at 11:53 pm to emanresu
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I don't like baseball because the majority of the time it's just guys standing around watching a pitch and catch. Its like if free throw shooting or field goal kicking constituted the majority of the game in basketball and football.
pretty obvious you don't know shite about baseball.
Posted on 6/15/13 at 11:55 pm to Iona Fan Man
Total viewership is up. Local markets are where the money is, and those are booming
Posted on 6/16/13 at 12:15 am to The White Lobster
I like talking about it afterwards more than sitting through the entire game.
I also agree about the local vs. national angle. I can watch a few innings of the Cards but I have no interest whatsoever watching even the two best teams if they are playing each other in the AL or NL either when the Cards aren't one of them.
I also agree about the local vs. national angle. I can watch a few innings of the Cards but I have no interest whatsoever watching even the two best teams if they are playing each other in the AL or NL either when the Cards aren't one of them.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 12:46 am to SabiDojo
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Too many games. They should cut the season in half. 81 games is good enough.
The Red Sox played 158 regular season games in the 1910 season, just 4 less than this season. They played 138 in their very first season (1901). It's managed to flourish for a long, long time with "daily baseball".
Posted on 6/16/13 at 12:50 am to motorbreath
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If you don't like baseball, you don't like baseball. Pumping up stats, shortening games, and shortening seasons won't make these people all of a sudden start watching baseball. If anything it will just turn off the true baseball fan.
Well said.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 12:54 am to jimithing11
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CBB > MLB
Tennis > MLB
Posted on 6/16/13 at 1:38 am to TulaneTigerFan
Just get rid of the sport all-together and bring America rugby and australian football.
Fvck baseball, worst major sport ever.
Fvck baseball, worst major sport ever.
This post was edited on 6/16/13 at 1:39 am
Posted on 6/16/13 at 2:22 am to TulaneTigerFan
Curling>MLB
Posted on 6/16/13 at 4:59 am to Iona Fan Man
So these numbers are including all the extra games seen on MLB.tv correct?
Posted on 6/16/13 at 7:48 am to Jcorye1
Baseball is much better live, and even though I'm a huge fan, watching nine innings on tv can be a chore. Here are some thoughts:
1. Better announcers. Local broadcasts still have lots of viewers, it's the national broadcasts that are suffering. No ESPN we don't want to listen to John Kruk for three fricking hours.
2. Quit showing the fricking Yankees. ESPN is the worst, but even TBS and MLB network now also seem like they only show the same handful of towns.
3. Shorten season. World Series begins every year first Saturday in October.
4. Speed up games. No need for a pitcher to step off or a hitter to step out after every pitch. Have time limits between pitches. If a pitcher violates, count receives a ball.
1. Better announcers. Local broadcasts still have lots of viewers, it's the national broadcasts that are suffering. No ESPN we don't want to listen to John Kruk for three fricking hours.
2. Quit showing the fricking Yankees. ESPN is the worst, but even TBS and MLB network now also seem like they only show the same handful of towns.
3. Shorten season. World Series begins every year first Saturday in October.
4. Speed up games. No need for a pitcher to step off or a hitter to step out after every pitch. Have time limits between pitches. If a pitcher violates, count receives a ball.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 8:10 am to Jcorye1
The game needs a pitch clock.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 8:17 am to Iona Fan Man
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MLB viewership down 30%...should they juice the ball?
And while it may spike here and there, honestly, this trend will continue until the MLB does something dramatic with the schedules. Nobody can stay interested in a game as long as nine innings for that many games a year. If they attempted to make a dramatically reduced schedule where each game mattered more, it would certainly help.
As far as allowing juicing? Sounds like lawsuit after lawsuit waiting to happen
"they wanted me on Roids for tv ratings and now my heart is failing"
This post was edited on 6/16/13 at 8:20 am
Posted on 6/16/13 at 10:00 am to BuckeyeFan87
i've watched parts of a handful national broadcasts all year. i watch the local broadcast for pretty much every game, and from what i understand that's in line w/ the national trends. made it out to the park for 7 games so far as well.
if we're talking about improving the length and excitement of MLB games, i would start by limiting mid-inning pitching changes and enforce the pretty moderate pitch-time rules already on the books (the pitcher will deliver the pitch within 12 seconds of receiving the ball and the batter stepping into the box).
as bill james says, people that fondly state that baseball is the only game w/o a clock seem to forget that up until the middle of the 20th century there was a clock. it's called the sun.
if we're talking about improving the length and excitement of MLB games, i would start by limiting mid-inning pitching changes and enforce the pretty moderate pitch-time rules already on the books (the pitcher will deliver the pitch within 12 seconds of receiving the ball and the batter stepping into the box).
as bill james says, people that fondly state that baseball is the only game w/o a clock seem to forget that up until the middle of the 20th century there was a clock. it's called the sun.
This post was edited on 6/16/13 at 10:01 am
Posted on 6/16/13 at 10:17 am to Iona Fan Man
You should correct the title to MLB cable television viewership down 30%. And since 2007? 6 years is an arbitrary time frame. Perfect example of usuing selective stats to support a point.
I'd be willing to bet the increase in popularity of MLB.tv offsets the dropoff in cable TV viewership. I'd also be willing to bet that attendance is continually climbing across the board.
MLB will never have the TV numbers that the NFL has because it's not a continual high intensity sport. But I can promise baseball isn't going anywhere but up.
I'd be willing to bet the increase in popularity of MLB.tv offsets the dropoff in cable TV viewership. I'd also be willing to bet that attendance is continually climbing across the board.
MLB will never have the TV numbers that the NFL has because it's not a continual high intensity sport. But I can promise baseball isn't going anywhere but up.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 10:26 am to BuckeyeFan87
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And while it may spike here and there, honestly, this trend will continue until the MLB does something dramatic with the schedules. Nobody can stay interested in a game as long as nine innings for that many games a year. If they attempted to make a dramatically reduced schedule where each game mattered more, it would certainly help.
As motorbreath said, people that don't watch baseball aren't going to start watching because you shorten the season. Baseball has had 150+ games for over 100 years. If the MLB starts to try to appeal to people with short attention spans they will start to lose actual baseball fans.
Baseball has no reason to change anything anyway, it's as profitable as ever and local ratings in most markets are going up.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 10:35 am to GaBassFisher92
I love watching baseball. I just don't have a horse in the race. I've never lived close enough to a market. If NOLA got a team I would probably watch every game.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 10:41 am to Iona Fan Man
We are too fast paced of a society to effectively enjoy the incredibly slow pace of a 3 hour baseball game, 162 times a year.
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