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Mike Trout, current Hall of Famer?
Posted on 1/8/16 at 7:40 am
Posted on 1/8/16 at 7:40 am
Article in ESPN has me thinking, if say he had a horrific injury but played another 6 seasons being average at best (1.0 WAR) would he still be a Hall of Famer.
Right now there is no doubt his path as he has been the best or one of the best players in the game over the past 4 seasons. However, has he done enough in those 4 seasons to say he is a Hall of Fame player if he has 6-8 average ones. His current WAR according to baseball reference is 37.9 so 6-8 average seasons could put him around say 44-48 career.
Would be similar to an Andruw Jones even though Jones never reached the offensive peak of Trout and Trout doesn't have the defensive WAR of Jones. But a young player who was bound for greatness only ro fall off fast, in Jones case weight and attitude.
Right now there is no doubt his path as he has been the best or one of the best players in the game over the past 4 seasons. However, has he done enough in those 4 seasons to say he is a Hall of Fame player if he has 6-8 average ones. His current WAR according to baseball reference is 37.9 so 6-8 average seasons could put him around say 44-48 career.
Would be similar to an Andruw Jones even though Jones never reached the offensive peak of Trout and Trout doesn't have the defensive WAR of Jones. But a young player who was bound for greatness only ro fall off fast, in Jones case weight and attitude.
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 7:50 am to tduecen
He'd have a better chance if he had a career ending injury instead of being average for 6 years.
Those 6 years wouldn't get any of his counting numbers to HOF status and they'd just ruin his avg, slg, obp, etc stats.
Those 6 years wouldn't get any of his counting numbers to HOF status and they'd just ruin his avg, slg, obp, etc stats.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 8:02 am to tduecen
Not for me although I'm probably the wrong person to ask. I'm absurdly picky about CF Hall of Famers. There should only be eight ML CFs in the HOF (Mays, Cobb, Speaker, Mantle, DiMaggio, Griffey, Snider and Hamilton). I don't think Puckett or Ashburn or Dawson or Doby should have gotten in. None of them are HOF caliber players IMO.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 8:51 am to tduecen
If you are the consensus top player in the league for 3 plus years, I have zero issue with that person going in.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 9:05 am to tduecen
Better question, if he continues on his current path how many voters will not vote him in on the first ballot of the hall of fame?
Posted on 1/8/16 at 9:11 am to 1ranter1
He would need to play those 6 years to be eligible.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 9:25 am to tduecen
quote:Andruw Jones hit 440 home runs and won 10 consecutive gold gloves. What are you talking about?
Would be similar to an Andruw Jones even though Jones never reached the offensive peak of Trout and Trout doesn't have the defensive WAR of Jones. But a young player who was bound for greatness only ro fall off fast, in Jones case weight and attitude.
Eta: I took that out of context. Really not a bad comparison considering the point you're trying to make
This post was edited on 1/8/16 at 9:52 am
Posted on 1/8/16 at 9:40 am to tduecen
The best comparison to your scenario would be Sandy Koufax. Koufax had 3/4 average seasons, 2 seasons of very good production, and 4 seasons of absolutely dominant/MVP level play.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 11:41 am to DallasTiger45
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The best comparison to your scenario would be Sandy Koufax. Koufax had 3/4 average seasons, 2 seasons of very good production, and 4 seasons of absolutely dominant/MVP level play.
Except Koufax's brilliant seasons were at the end of his career, letting him retire on top, and leaving an image of brilliance in the minds of fans and HoF voters.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 11:42 am to tduecen
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Mike Trout, current Hall of Famer?
Too soon.
But he's going to be one of the all-time greats when he's done a LONG time from now.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 11:43 am to Bench McElroy
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Not for me although I'm probably the wrong person to ask. I'm absurdly picky about CF Hall of Famers. There should only be eight ML CFs in the HOF
Ugh.You may be worse than the writers.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 11:58 am to Bench McElroy
Crazy 3 of those guys played in the same city at the same time......
Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:11 pm to tduecen
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Article in ESPN has me thinking, if say he had a horrific injury but played another 6 seasons being average at best (1.0 WAR) would he still be a Hall of Famer.
Tell that to Dale Murphy. Or Bret Saberhagen. Being incredibly awesome and then incredibly mediocre kills your HOF case.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:18 pm to tduecen
Crazy thing is that according to baseball references HOF probability, trout still isn't to a point where he has a good probability. His point total is about 75. The only player under the age of 30 that is above 100 is Kershaw. Now, trout will probably be were Kershaw is when he is 27
Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:23 pm to tduecen
WTF is WAR omg
Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:33 pm to tduecen
What if Trout had 2 more fantastic seasons, and then he like has a freak accident and dies?
He would have been the best player in baseball over a 6-year span. Is that not enough?
He would have been the best player in baseball over a 6-year span. Is that not enough?
Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:48 pm to BayouBengals03
I can't fathom a way he doesn't get into the HOF barring any extenuating circumstances
Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:48 pm to BayouBengals03
He wouldn't even be on the ballot under that scenario
Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:51 pm to TigerintheNO
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He wouldn't even be on the ballot under that scenario
10 years?
That is a very silly rule, given some possible circumstances that could keep a guy from reaching 10 years in the league.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:51 pm to TigerintheNO
he wont make it once he gets busted for PEDs
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