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Mike Bianchi: Bobby Bowden better than both Nick Saban and Bear Bryant

Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:19 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:19 pm
Do you agree?

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The debate du jour in the wake of Alabama's thrilling 45-40 national championship victory over Clemson is the constant, chronic yammering on whether Nick Saban has surpassed Bear Bryant as the greatest college football coach in history.

In my mind, Saban has easily eclipsed the Bear, but not as the greatest college football coach of all-time.

Call me a State of Florida homer if you want, but I still maintain Bobby Bowden is the greatest college football coach to ever prowl the sidelines. Granted, Bear has six national titles, Saban has five and Bowden only has two. But Bowden has more overall victories and did something Bryant, Saban and Joe Paterno never did.



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Bobby has meant more to Florida State than the Bear ever meant to Alabama; more than JoePa has meant to Penn State; more than any coach has ever meant to any school.

The reason is simple: Alabama football thrived before the Bear ever arrived. The Crimson Tide won national titles and appeared in Rose Bowls under coaches like Wallace Wade and Frank Thomas. Before Paterno arrived at Penn State, legendary former coach Rip Engle had a 104-48 record and never had a losing season.

But before Bobby, Florida State football was an embarrassing quagmire of Cigar Bowl bids, chicken wire scandals and losing seasons. There was even talk of shutting down football.

And now look at where the Seminoles are. Still competing for national championships long after Bobby retired.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 4:24 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:20 pm to
Can you post a snippet of the article?

I'm not signing up for that shite

Or at least give a synopsis?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:20 pm to
The Bama circle jerk board is up a little further. This is not it
Posted by TheWalrus
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:21 pm to
Article says I have to subscribe, no thanks.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:23 pm to
He's way better than Saban. He finished the regular season with 1 loss(usually Miami) several times and didn't get to play for a title.

His record at West Virginia is a lot better than Saban's at Michigan St too
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:25 pm to
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He's way better than Saban.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162186 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:27 pm to
I do think an argument could be made. Didn't they have something like 13 consecutive top 4 finishes at one point?

And prior to his arrival FSU wasn't anywhere near the historic program that Alabama was.

And he did a good enough job branding them to where his successor has been able to have sustained success.

People often cite that the ACC is weak but he did have to play both Florida and Miami out of conference every year. The only Florida school that has the other 2 power 5 Florida schools on the schedule every year. Say what you will, but he's got a pretty impressive track record.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:27 pm to
FSU's run was stupid impressive, but no. Saban is tGOAT.
Posted by Kafka
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:28 pm to
Bear Bryant called the state of Florida a sleeping giant in the '60s. What happened with UF and FSU was in a way inevitable.

Taking nothing away from Bowden, but it's not like he made a perennial power out of South Dakota
Posted by Mr Personality
Bangkok
Member since Mar 2014
27364 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:34 pm to
Bianchi is a known state of Florida homer.

Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41139 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:35 pm to
Bowden had losing records against his two rivals.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32600 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:37 pm to
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Bobby Bowden better than both Nick Saban and Bear Bryant
yeah, at accumulating liver spots.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:39 pm to
Bowden's the reason FSU is a relevant brand nowadays. As far as on the field success goes. I'd take Saban over him.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12286 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:40 pm to
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Do you agree?


No..Saban has IMO established himself as the best College coach of all time. 5 championships at 2 different schools with modern scholarship restrictions, increased competition on the national front while playing in the toughest division in football pretty much settles the debate for me. The man has 5 National championships in his last 11 seasons as a college coach..unbelievable.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 4:42 pm
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17836 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:56 pm to
Mike bianchi is known troll. He is poster child for interlachen, fl and the nothing it has to offer. His shite writing ruined my teenage years of sports page reading.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 5:05 pm to
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Call me a State of Florida homer if you want


Well, I think I will take him up on that.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86426 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 5:17 pm to
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Bobby has meant more to Florida State than the Bear ever meant to Alabama


this right here is all anyone needs to read to know that this guy is absolutely, totally, 100% wrong and has no idea what he's talking about.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64017 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 5:19 pm to
Have lived all over Florida. Bianci is a professional troll type. Nothing to see here.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
67956 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 5:22 pm to
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But Bowden has more overall victories and did something Bryant, Saban and Joe Paterno never did


Yeah, he ducked the SEC like a vag to pad his winning.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79001 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 5:28 pm to
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Bianchi is a known state of Florida homer.



Dude waged a personal war against Cam Newton too, he's known to be a ridiculous and petty bitch
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