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Luck vs. Griffin; Round 253
Posted by LSUlunatic on 3/24/12 at 7:45 pm00
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“Luck was not a special passer based on film study,” wrote Cosell. “He is not the same kind of arm talent as Matthew Stafford or Cam Newton. … Luck was an economical player who was at his best as a timing and rhythm, short to intermediate passer.”
Cosell did credit Luck for his masterful ability to call plays and make adjustments at the line of scrimmage, calling it an “essential attribute as [Luck] transitions to the NFL.”
Based strictly on game tape, however, RG3 was the more remarkable quarterback.
“What immediately jumped out was his arm strength,” Cosell wrote. “… Griffin, for a power thrower, was consistently accurate. The better term for accuracy is ball location. That’s what allows receivers to run after the catch. Griffin excelled in that area.”
Cosell went on to praise Griffin’s “composure in the pocket” as better than Luck’s, as well as RG3's ability to throw from different arm angles while maintaining consistent accuracy. Cosell suggested that Griffin, despite playing in Baylor’s spread scheme, was less of a system quarterback than Luck, who was “managed and manipulated by his offense.”
re: Luck vs. Griffin; Round 253Posted by Kafka on 3/24/12 at 7:49 pm to LSUlunatic
frick that
Take Leaf
Take Leaf
re: Luck vs. Griffin; Round 253Posted by DP40 on 3/24/12 at 8:17 pm to LSUlunatic
Greg Cosell, 2007:
“Oh, man, can [he] flick it. Like Elway, he has the ability to see and make downfield throws 50 yards when he’s on the move. If you think [he] is one of those special quarterbacks — and in the NFL right now, there’s Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Carson Palmer— you have to take him. I don’t know how the Raiders have him evaluated. But I can tell you watching him on film, he wowed me. This kid is a special passer, and he’s got a complete inventory of throws. He’s got that football intuition. He throws from different platforms, doesn’t always have to be perfectly set and can move within the boxing-ring space of the pocket to find the quiet area.”
Cosell was commenting on one JaMarcus Russell, the biggest bust in NFL history.
Don't know what the hell film this guy watched, but half of what he said was complete bullshite since JR didn't display that shite in college....no vision, no pocket presence, no intuition.
“Oh, man, can [he] flick it. Like Elway, he has the ability to see and make downfield throws 50 yards when he’s on the move. If you think [he] is one of those special quarterbacks — and in the NFL right now, there’s Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Carson Palmer— you have to take him. I don’t know how the Raiders have him evaluated. But I can tell you watching him on film, he wowed me. This kid is a special passer, and he’s got a complete inventory of throws. He’s got that football intuition. He throws from different platforms, doesn’t always have to be perfectly set and can move within the boxing-ring space of the pocket to find the quiet area.”
Cosell was commenting on one JaMarcus Russell, the biggest bust in NFL history.
Don't know what the hell film this guy watched, but half of what he said was complete bullshite since JR didn't display that shite in college....no vision, no pocket presence, no intuition.
re: Luck vs. Griffin; Round 253Posted by iwyLSUiwy on 3/24/12 at 8:19 pm to LSUlunatic
Give me rg3 all day. It literally makes my my ears bleed listening to kipper talk about luck. Hes just talking but you can tell he's got a boner. Not that I have any problem with luck being the top prospect it's just kipper is the biggest joke of a scout all time. Mcshay says luck is the best prospect he's seen since elway. Todd mcshay was six years old when elway got drafted.
re: Luck vs. Griffin; Round 253Posted by tiggerthetooth on 3/24/12 at 8:24 pm to iwyLSUiwy
I thought this was LOVE vs. Griffin at first, and I was like :beatdeadhorse:
re: Luck vs. Griffin; Round 253Posted by snake23 on 3/24/12 at 8:25 pm to LSUlunatic
they're both gonna be very good, possibly even great, players but ill take RG3
re: Luck vs. Griffin; Round 253Posted by TulaneTigerFan on 3/24/12 at 8:26 pm to DP40
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Don't know what the hell film this guy watched, but half of what he said was complete bull shite since JR didn't display that shite in college....no vision, no pocket presence, no intuition.
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No, JR lacked NFL level vision, pocket presence, intuition and of course his worst trait zero work ethic.
He rarely anticipated throws, threw guys open, didn't manipulate the pocket, rarely felt pressure, etc. He was below average in all these areas, not NFL ready/good at any as describe by Cosell.
He rarely anticipated throws, threw guys open, didn't manipulate the pocket, rarely felt pressure, etc. He was below average in all these areas, not NFL ready/good at any as describe by Cosell.
re: Luck vs. Griffin; Round 253Posted by Suntiger on 3/24/12 at 9:01 pm to LSUlunatic
I'll admit, I haven't watched that much of Luck, but I've been impressed every time I've seen RG3. Even in interviews he seems like a guy with a good work ethic and understanding of the game.
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Don't know what the hell film this guy watched, but half of what he said was complete bullshite since JR didn't display that shite in college....no vision, no pocket presence, no intuition.
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DP40
unfortunately, sure if serious.
re: Luck vs. Griffin; Round 253Posted by VerlanderBEAST on 3/24/12 at 9:34 pm to tiggerthetooth
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I thought this was LOVE vs. Griffin at first
lol me too
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