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Lifetime ban

Posted on 7/23/13 at 1:14 pm
Posted by ironeagle32
cottonport
Member since Jul 2011
240 posts
Posted on 7/23/13 at 1:14 pm
Should mlb give violators of drug policy a lifetime ban? Seems like this could be the only thing to work. You can suspend them for however many games, but they have money so that doesn't bother them, and then you have people like melky, braun, and A Rod that will continue to do it. Make an example of this dirt bag Braun
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117678 posts
Posted on 7/23/13 at 1:15 pm to
It oughtta just be legal, like the NFL.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50337 posts
Posted on 7/23/13 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

Should mlb give violators of drug policy a lifetime ban? Seems like this could be the only thing to work. You can suspend them for however many games, but they have money so that doesn't bother them, and then you have people like melky, braun, and A Rod that will continue to do it. Make an example of this dirt bag Braun




current system

First positive test result: 50 game suspension
Second positive test result: 100 game suspension
Third positive test result: lifetime ban from MLB

I think it should be

first offense 1 season.
second offense gone.
Posted by Interception
Member since Nov 2008
11089 posts
Posted on 7/23/13 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

first offense 1 season.
second offense gone.


100% Agree with this
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 7/23/13 at 1:26 pm to
if Charlie Hustle got it, they should get it
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 7/23/13 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

first offense 1 season.
second offense gone.
First offense: gone.

Not using drugs is very easy. Let's treat the players like adults who know how to not cheat.
Posted by Ford Frenzy
337 posts
Member since Aug 2010
6876 posts
Posted on 7/23/13 at 1:30 pm to
first offense 162 game ban, second lifetime ban


but I'd still be ok with a first time offense being a lifetime ban
Posted by Brian Wilson
Member since Mar 2012
2016 posts
Posted on 7/23/13 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

but they have money so that doesn't bother them


Money isn't everything. These guys' lives revolve around this sport. It kills them to miss any time away from it.

quote:

and then you have people like melky, braun, and A Rod that will continue to do it


Continue? How do you know? Have they said they will continue?
Posted by ironeagle32
cottonport
Member since Jul 2011
240 posts
Posted on 7/23/13 at 1:36 pm to
Melky signed an enormous contract after he got caught....Think he cares as long as he's getting money....That's a joke. A Rod has been doing it forever...And now he's suddenly hurt again. That's a joke....Teach these bums a lesson. Our sport is bigger than cheaters. Pete Rose was banned for betting, lifetime ban. These jacklegs get a slap on the wrist.
Posted by PhiTauSMTTT
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2013
116 posts
Posted on 7/23/13 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

Continue? How do you know? Have they said they will continue?





Braun got off on a technicality last year and got caught again. A Roid admitting to using in Texas and got caught again
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 7/23/13 at 1:39 pm to
They should stone them and the tar and feather them and then let them get eaten alive by wild pigs.

Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66885 posts
Posted on 7/23/13 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

Continue? How do you know? Have they said they will continue?



lulz. Braun is sitting out the rest of this season with his team sucking and him being injured. Next season all of his guaranteed money kicks in. So basically MLB didn't do anything to him. It will continue.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118893 posts
Posted on 7/23/13 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

first offense 1 season.
second offense gone.


Should apply to all sports, if there is a desire to truly stop the behavior, which I'm not sure there really is.
This post was edited on 7/23/13 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39553 posts
Posted on 7/23/13 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

First offense: gone. Not using drugs is very easy. Let's treat the players like adults who know how to not cheat.


I would be fine with this if they had an "accident clause."

I know that sounds likely to be abused, but there are some NFL cases where the athlete made a legitimate mistake as to the contents of the supplement. IE more than one athlete didn't know that a certain chemical compound was banned, and that this OTC supplement had that compound. I think those guys should get a pass from the lifetime ban, and probably get a parking ticket type of suspension (you did it, even on accident, still a penalty). Let me add those NFL cases weren't examples of "willful blindness" either.

But ya, for someone who definitely juiced, I think its more than fair to ban them for life after the first offense, as you say, they are adults, they don't need to be coddled.
This post was edited on 7/23/13 at 1:44 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202600 posts
Posted on 7/23/13 at 1:46 pm to
And reinstating Pete Rose should be in the HOF....
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 7/23/13 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

So basically MLB didn't do anything to him. It will continue.


They blasted a hole in any future arguments as to 'credibility' of the witnesses. By braun not fighting it and saying 'yea i did it' he bolstered MLB's witnesses going forward.

I think the one year ban for first, lifetime for second is the best option, along with teddy's clause for accidental ingestion, I don't want it to become like the olympics where someone is kicked out for markers that show up in rogaine.
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 7/23/13 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

first offense 1 season.
second offense gone.


And Braun is a lying piece of shite...he needs to be gone now. If Goodell was running Major League Baseball and Braun had made him look that bad and drug him through the mud, he'd be fricking gone.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112204 posts
Posted on 7/23/13 at 2:25 pm to
1st offense: No penalty

2nd offense: No penalty

3rd offense: No Penalty

Etc etc

Let them juice
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
6925 posts
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:47 pm to
Should they? Sure.

Can they? No.

This is one of the many problems with overly strong player's unions; any serious attempt at a lifetime ban would be overturned as part of the appeal process within the CBA; the best they will be able to manage are effectively-life bans like ARoid is likely to get--- not because they're going to throw the book at him, but because he is 37 years old and broken down.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 7/23/13 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

quote: First offense: gone. Not using drugs is very easy. Let's treat the players like adults who know how to not cheat. I would be fine with this if they had an "accident clause." I know that sounds likely to be abused, but there are some NFL cases where the athlete made a legitimate mistake as to the contents of the supplement. IE more than one athlete didn't know that a certain chemical compound was banned, and that this OTC supplement had that compound. I think those guys should get a pass from the lifetime ban, and probably get a parking ticket type of suspension (you did it, even on accident, still a penalty). Let me add those NFL cases weren't examples of "willful blindness" either. But ya, for someone who definitely juiced, I think its more than fair to ban them for life after the first offense, as you say, they are adults, they don't need to be coddled.
I can work with this.
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