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Letting Vegas Decide Playoff Rankings?
Posted on 12/3/14 at 10:56 am
Posted on 12/3/14 at 10:56 am
With all this talk about perceived playoff ranking injustice, would getting Vegas involved be a positive solution?
Per RJ Bell, three teams not currently in the top 4 would be favored over FSU in a playoff game.
Baylor -4
Mich St -3
Miss State -2.5
Do you guys think there could be a way to let an association of Vegas bookmakers rank playoff teams? Or is the opportunity for corruption too great?
Per RJ Bell, three teams not currently in the top 4 would be favored over FSU in a playoff game.
Baylor -4
Mich St -3
Miss State -2.5
Do you guys think there could be a way to let an association of Vegas bookmakers rank playoff teams? Or is the opportunity for corruption too great?
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 10:58 am to dcrews
No it's a stupid idea. Vegas doesn't penalize talented teams for losses
Posted on 12/3/14 at 10:58 am to dcrews
quote:Bama would have made the playoffs in 2010 with 3 losses. Vegas is not how you want to do this.
Do you guys think there could be a way to let an association of Vegas bookmakers rank playoff teams? Or is the opportunity for corruption too great?
Posted on 12/3/14 at 10:58 am to dcrews
Vegas was built by the stupidity of the public... Not the genius of Vegas
Posted on 12/3/14 at 10:58 am to dcrews
Vegas only cares about one thing and that's making money. They couldn't give less of a frick if the "right" teams get in.
Awful idea.
Awful idea.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 10:59 am to dcrews
With a month to get healthy, FSU would arse ram Michigan State.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:01 am to tween the hedges
quote:
No it's a stupid idea. Vegas doesn't penalize talented teams for losses
This.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:01 am to BayouBengals03
In 2010, Bama would have been the 1 seed in the playoffs at 9-3 and ranked 16.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:02 am to lsupride87
No yeah this would be a terrible idea.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:02 am to dcrews
I'm in favor of at least some Vegas input. Vegas doesn't care about when you lost. They do care about how talented the team is, what injuries you have, and whether they could win the game.
It all depends on the goal. If it's is to get the "best" teams in CFB, Vegas is a great resource. If you want the most "deserving", maybe not.
Either way, I think there should be clearly defined guidelines. Things like win your conference, P5 games, FCS opponents, etc.
It all depends on the goal. If it's is to get the "best" teams in CFB, Vegas is a great resource. If you want the most "deserving", maybe not.
Either way, I think there should be clearly defined guidelines. Things like win your conference, P5 games, FCS opponents, etc.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:02 am to BayouBengals03
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FSU would arse ram Michigan State
Florida State wouldn't "arse ram" anyone in the Top 25. They should have lost to Notre Dame, Louisville, Clemson, Boston College, Florida and Miami. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be in the playoffs, but saying they would arse ram a top 10 team is pretty retarded if you have watched them play one single game this year.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:03 am to PurpleAndGold86
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Doesn't mean they shouldn't be in the playoffs, but saying they would arse ram a top 10 team is pretty retarded if you have watched them play one single game this year.
I don't think Michigan State is that good at all.
Yes, Florida State plays a lot of close games. But with a month to prepare, I think they'll be an entirely different team come playoff time.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:05 am to LSUtigerME
quote:No it isnt. Bama is not always favored because Vegas thinks they are the "best" team. They are favored because Vegas tries to predict where the money will go and what the outcome would be. If you changed Bamas name to Auburn and kept the exact same players and coaches, Vegas would treat them differently because they know their perception and money following has changed.
If it's is to get the "best" teams in CFB, Vegas is a great resource
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:06 am to PurpleAndGold86
quote:Tell me why they "should" have lost these games?
They should have lost to Notre Dame, Louisville, Clemson, Boston College, Florida and Miami.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:45 am to LSUtigerME
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I'm in favor of at least some Vegas input. Vegas doesn't care about when you lost. They do care about how talented the team is, what injuries you have, and whether they could win the game.
Vegas doesn't even care if you lost.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:46 am to lsupride87
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No it isnt. Bama is not always favored because Vegas thinks they are the "best" team. They are favored because Vegas tries to predict where the money will go and what the outcome would be. If you changed Bamas name to Auburn and kept the exact same players and coaches, Vegas would treat them differently because they know their perception and money following has changed.
Not really. This is more or less nullified by big smart money sharks. If the line is wrong, they will hammer it until it is right. People who do this for a living don't give a shite what the name on the helmet is. If they see profit, they will exploit it until Vegas shuts it down.
Vegas is usually a pretty good indicator of what the most knowledgable people predict.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:48 am to TheSexecutioner
quote:Yes they do. They care because it effects how the money moves
People who do this for a living don't give a shite what the name on the helmet is
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:50 am to lsupride87
I also don't understand why people say Florida State should have lost any game. They had an unusual amount of close games but they shouldn't have lost any of them. Its not like any of the games their fate was out of their hands. That could be said about Alabama when they fumbled against LSU and got lucky that the clock worked out perfectly and LSU had a dumb personal foul/out of bounds kick.
The Notre Dame game for example was close, but FSU put their trust in the defense to get a stop. They ran conservative plays and punted. Its not like Notre Dame missed a FG or something. Same for the other games to my recollection. Hell Bama beat Arkansas by a missed extra point
The Notre Dame game for example was close, but FSU put their trust in the defense to get a stop. They ran conservative plays and punted. Its not like Notre Dame missed a FG or something. Same for the other games to my recollection. Hell Bama beat Arkansas by a missed extra point
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:52 am to lsupride87
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Yes they do. They care because it effects how the money moves
No. All they care about is what the actual line should be and what it is. If those don't match, they bet on the side where it should be. Vegas eventually adjusts it down. The thing is that the stupid money on one side stops betting at some point even though they like the line. Sharks will not stop betting if they like the line. They treat it like a business, not a gamble.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:58 am to dcrews
So that 10-2 Bama is in the playoffs every year?
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