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re: Lebron is the GOAT player. MJ had the GOAT career.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:45 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:45 pm to lsupride87
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A lot of people who were old enough to watch MJ, grew up, and no longer watch sports as much because their lives moved on and they simply spout shot without even watching....
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:45 pm to shel311
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Doesn't change my point, there are a bunch of role players with no titles who were a tad better than Robert Horry, but wouldn't you say he was more accomplished?
You're going to have to give me a specific player. How can I compare him to the vague category of "role players with no titles"?
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:45 pm to dukke v
Of course stats matter because they constitute facts and evidence for arguments.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:51 pm to sicboy
Why are you laughing? It is clear as day
They will say things like the defense was tougher, Bron couldn't survive back then, and the league is weaker now
They will say things like the defense was tougher, Bron couldn't survive back then, and the league is weaker now
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:52 pm to dukke v
quote:well apparently the 90s were a bunch of unathletic short dudes so it's pretty clear everyone here grew up on lebron's NBA and 90s NBA is alien to them
How old are you???
Millennials are just getting old enough to feel nostalgia. It's cute.
Jordan was the best
Wilt is the best athlete to ever play in the NBA
Magic has HIV
I actually watched the 4th quarter of last night's game and what was striking is how old lebron is. He was lumbering and barely getting off the ground. Time catches everyone. Last time I saw him he was with the heat and he was just an athletic freak. He looks like he's put on some weight too
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:52 pm to Weagle25
quote:Pick any role player you think was slightly better than Horry, that guy.
You're going to have to give me a specific player. How can I compare him to the vague category of "role players with no titles"?
Hell, whether he has no titles or 1 or 2 is irrelevant considering Horry has 7.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:56 pm to DelU249
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it's pretty clear everyone here grew up on lebron's NBA and 90s NBA is alien to them
Millennials are just getting old enough to feel nostalgia. It's cute.
bullshite. I'm a millennial and grew up on 90s basketball.
James is the superior player. And I'm not a James fan. Have rooted against his team every time he played the Pacers or made the Finals.
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He was lumbering and barely getting off the ground. Time catches everyone. Last time I saw him he was with the heat and he was just an athletic freak. He looks like he's put on some weight too
You need glasses. James wears the #23. Idk who you were watching
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:56 pm to shel311
Pick one that proves your point because I don't see your point apparently.
If you had a better career than somebody then you were a better player even if the other person had more talent than you. Plain and simple.
I don't know why you're so focused on titles when I said nothing about them. Sure it's a element of a successful career but it's far from the only thing.
If you had a better career than somebody then you were a better player even if the other person had more talent than you. Plain and simple.
I don't know why you're so focused on titles when I said nothing about them. Sure it's a element of a successful career but it's far from the only thing.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:58 pm to Weagle25
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If you had a better career than somebody then you were a better player even if the other person had more talent than you.
This is wildly incorrect.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:59 pm to DelU249
quote:Pretty much every player, guy who covers the NBA, and us lowly fans are marveling at how LeBron looks to be in the best shape of his life, fwiw.
I actually watched the 4th quarter of last night's game and what was striking is how old lebron is. He was lumbering and barely getting off the ground. Time catches everyone. Last time I saw him he was with the heat and he was just an athletic freak. He looks like he's put on some weight too
Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:00 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:i watched him dunk and he barely jumped. His post up moves were clumsy and he got away with a walk
You need glasses. James wears the #23. Idk who you were watching
Now whoever that other dude on the cavs was with that behind the back fake out drive to the hoop. He was awesome
Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:01 pm to Weagle25
quote:Weird that you can't do that.
Pick one that proves your point because I don't see your point apparently.
quote:You got it backwards, that's not my point.
If you had a better career than somebody then you were a better player even if the other person had more talent than you. Plain and simple.
My point is there are players out there that are clearly better than Robert Horry, who are also less accomplished. Would you actually disagree with that?
quote:My original premise says it depends on how you value team accomplishments when saying who had the better career, that's why.
I don't know why you're so focused on titles when I said nothing about them. Sure it's a element of a successful career but it's far from the only thing.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:02 pm to DelU249
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i watched him dunk and he barely jumped.
Dude literally had one of the most high flying alley pop dunks less than a week ago but ok u rite he can't jump anymore
Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:03 pm to shel311
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Pretty much every player, guy who covers the NBA, and us lowly fans are marveling at how LeBron looks to be in the best shape of his life, fwiw.
No no, frick them. LeBron is fat and old and slow and can barely jump.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:03 pm to shel311
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Pretty much every player, guy who covers the NBA, and us lowly fans are marveling at how LeBron looks to be in the best shape of his life, fwiw.
youre full of shite. All I heard today on ESPN was how Lebron looked slower than ever before.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:04 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I said he looked old last night
Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:05 pm to jangalang
quote:How are you so uninformed about this?
youre full of shite
Usually it's best to not talk about things you're this uninformed on.
Literally, it's all everyone has been talking about since the start of the playoffs. How do you NOT know that?
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:06 pm to shel311
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You got it backwards, that's not my point.
It's not your point. Its my point.
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My point is there are players out there that are clearly better than Robert Horry, who are also less accomplished. Would you actually disagree with that?
Like who?
His only accomplishments are team acclomplishments.
7 PPG
4.8 RPG
2.1 APG
Not that impressive. A guy who was on stacked teams and hit clutch shots. Not necessarily a great career
Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:07 pm to DelU249
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i watched him dunk and he barely jumped
WTF??
Did you not see the tomahawk dunk he missed? He's up there...
Posted on 5/24/17 at 8:08 pm to shel311
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How are you so uninformed about this?
So Richard Jefferson says his "performance" was due to sickness but you think he never looked better...
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