re: Lebron is the best

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He is without a doubt the best ever

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LBJ is so efficient it's mind blowing. When you can get your 30 in 7-10 less shots than any other player your team is going to really shine. Kobe has proven that he can't get his points AND be a good teammate. LBJ makes it look very easy.

If you don't think he's already an all time great then there's no changing your mind

Huge LBJ fan here but MJ is still the best ever. One thing that gets overlooked about both of these players is their defense. We are talking about maybe the best 2 perimeter defenders of all time.

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We are talking about maybe the best 2 perimeter defenders of all time.

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Pippen>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Both.

Tough to compare eras. Lbj is the best athlete the league has ever seen. He cost himself quite a bit by waiting 8 seasons to find himself as a Player. He should have been in the post years ago. Too many jumpers cost him multiple rings early on IMO. Gonna come down to his ability to recreate himself once his speed is gone. I'd say he ends up top 5, with his haters saying he didn't win 5 rings so he's no Kobe or mj. His lovers will disregard and put him tops. I hate that none of his coaches had him on the block earlier. That will prolong his career, ala mj.

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this discussion is MUTE.

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At this moment, Lebron has logged 29,381 minutes. Jordan had logged 29,600 minutes from 1984-1996. Let's compare Lebron's numbers to Jordan's numbers from 1984-1996.

PPG

Jordan- 32.0
Lebron- 27.6

Advantage- Jordan

RPG

Jordan- 6.4
Lebron- 7.2

Advantage- Lebron

APG

Jordan- 5.7
Lebron- 6.9

Advantage- Lebron

FG%

Jordan- .512
Lebron- .488

Advantage- Jordan

3P%

Jordan- .332
Lebron- .336

Advantage- Lebron

PER

Jordan- 29.6
Lebron- 27.5

Advantage- Jordan

TS%

Jordan- .586
Lebron- .573

Advantage- Jordan

ORTG

Jordan- 121
Lebron- 115

Advantage- Jordan

DRTG

Jordan- 103
Lebron- 102

Advantage- Lebron

WS/48

Jordan- .276
Lebron- .237

Advantage- Jordan

Playoff PPG

Jordan- 33.9
Lebron- 28.5

Advantage- Jordan

Playoff RPG

Jordan- 6.4
Lebron- 8.7

Advantage- Lebron

Playoff APG

Jordan- 6.2
Lebron- 6.7

Advantage- Lebron

Playoff FG%

Jordan- .495
Lebron- .469

Advantage- Jordan

Playoff PER

Jordan- 28.9
Lebron- 27.1

Advantage- Jordan

Playoff TS%

Jordan- .577
Lebron- .564

Advantage- Jordan

Playoff ORTG

Jordan- 119
Lebron- 114

Advantage- Jordan

Playoff DRTG

Jordan- 104
Lebron- 101

Advantage- Lebron

Playoff WS/48

Jordan- .257
Lebron- .234

Advantage- Jordan

Lebron has the clear advantage in assists and rebounding and is a slightly three point shooter and defender. Jordan has the edge in every other category. The WS/48 stat shows that Jordan had a bigger positive impact on the game. Jordan's offensive advantage over Lebron is much larger advantage than Lebron's defensive advantage over him. At the end of the day, that's what ultimately makes Jordan a better player than Lebron.