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re: Kyle Korver out for remainder of playoffs
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:00 pm to shel311
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:00 pm to shel311
Ehh they only have to win 2 of the next 5 games (w/3 at home) against a team missing arguably their most important player.
Tendinitis is super tricky to deal with. I'm fine with taking my chances on the best player in world keeping them afloat with out him. Especially considering he will likely be going up against the MVP in the next round and the league's best defense.
Tendinitis is super tricky to deal with. I'm fine with taking my chances on the best player in world keeping them afloat with out him. Especially considering he will likely be going up against the MVP in the next round and the league's best defense.
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Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:00 pm to Goldrush25
Wow a hypothetical that takes Lebron off the cavs? How is that a meaningful exercise?
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:01 pm to wildtigercat93
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There have been a ton of epic games
This is true but just imagine much better some of these games could have been if not for so many injuries to key players. You mentioned the ATL/Wash series but it could have been even more dramatic had John Wall not missed multiple games. The Conley injury had an effect on that GSW series as well as the Tony Allen injury going into the series clincher for the Warriors.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:05 pm to shel311
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That's very risky,
Not really. Kyrie made a couple threes in Game 1, but couldn't guard Teague so they had to pull him. He was a net negative.
He will be a defensive liability until he heals. There's no reason for him to tough it out if there is a chance he can heal up.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:12 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:Well Yea, if he can't be effective, he shouldn't play. But again, IMO that decision should be made the same whether it's Cavs 2-0, 1-1, or 0-2.
Not really. Kyrie made a couple threes in Game 1, but couldn't guard Teague so they had to pull him. He was a net negative.
He will be a defensive liability until he heals. There's no reason for him to tough it out if there is a chance he can heal up.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:13 pm to tigerclaws15
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:26 pm to shel311
If you watched Kyrie in Game 1, you'd understand.
They pulled him due to his inability to guard.
His best shot now is to hopefully get healthy for the Finals or Game 7 if needed.
IF he is still hurting in the Finals, he will have to suck it up (which he will do obviously).
They pulled him due to his inability to guard.
His best shot now is to hopefully get healthy for the Finals or Game 7 if needed.
IF he is still hurting in the Finals, he will have to suck it up (which he will do obviously).
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:28 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:I did, but we're arguing 2 different things at this point
If you watched Kyrie in Game 1, you'd understand.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:33 pm to tigerclaws15
Wasn't gonna matter anyway.
The Hawks have been going full 'tard throughout the playoffs.
And the NBA is damn well make sure they get the final the NBA wants.
The Hawks have been going full 'tard throughout the playoffs.
And the NBA is damn well make sure they get the final the NBA wants.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:33 pm to shel311
quote:We can assume the the greatest leader in NBA history will be leading the Cavs. Looks to me like they don't need Love or Kyrie.
You can't assume anything at this point.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:34 pm to shel311
You're arguing some hypothetical situation, I'm talking about what's actually transpiring.
So.
So.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:38 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:no clue what you're talking about now. You're arguing the series count should factor into the decision, I'm saying it shouldn't. Seems pretty cut and dry, no hypotheticals.
You're arguing some hypothetical situation, I'm talking about what's actually transpiring.
So.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:38 pm to beatbammer
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And the NBA is damn well make sure they get the final the NBA wants.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:39 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:I remember when virtually everyone assumed the series was over when the Spurs had won a bazillion games and were up 2-0 on OKC in the WCF. Then they lost 4 straight.
We can assume the the greatest leader in NBA history will be leading the Cavs.
So Yea, go on assuming.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:45 pm to shel311
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no clue what you're talking about now. You're arguing the series count should factor into the decision, I'm saying it shouldn't. Seems pretty cut and dry, no hypotheticals.
I'm saying that Kyrie in Game 1 is a net negative so with a 2-0 lead without him, there's no reason to use a net negative player when there is a potential to get him to a net positive.
I don't understand why that's so hard to grasp. If they were down 2-0 then they would obviously have to pull out all the stops and see if Kyrie could suck it up and gut it out.
Again, you're arguing hypotheticals. They are up 2, Kyrie is a net negative, the Cavs are gonna win the series 97% of the time by the numbers, there is no reason to play him after they won two on the road without him.
Stop being obstinate.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:46 pm to shel311
Just messing. I remember before the playoffs started, MANY here were giving the Cavs about a 50-60% chance just to beat the Bulls. Kyrie is out and Love is toast and they're murdering Atlanta and going home for 2. Just blows my mind. And of course, it's been because of the easy road, now that they've kicked arse
This post was edited on 5/23/15 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:47 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:Oops, fml!!!
Just messing.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:49 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:again, you're arguing something different than I was arguing, and I believe you quoted me originally for reference , fwiw.
I don't understand why that's so hard to grasp. If they were down 2-0 then they would obviously have to pull out all the stops and see if Kyrie could suck it up and gut it out.
I understand my side and your side, not sure where you're still confused here.
This post was edited on 5/23/15 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:51 pm to shel311
quote:
again, you're arguing something different than I was arguing, and I believe you quoted me originally for reference , fwiw.
This is what you said:
quote:
That's very risky, you risk Atlanta getting back in the series while possibly having your 2nd best player available while holding him out. You can't assume anything at this point.
There is NO risk since Kyrie is a net negative right now and will be for the near future. Why risk pushing his recovery time further down the road when he's already a net negative?
They're not risking anything.
Posted on 5/23/15 at 3:58 pm to KosmoCramer
Wrong quote, here's the first quote of mine you replied to:
Fwiw, the confusion may be me saying "if he can play, he should"... I take" if he can play" to mean if he can play and be effective.
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I think you make the decision regardless of the series count. If he can play, he should play.
Fwiw, the confusion may be me saying "if he can play, he should"... I take" if he can play" to mean if he can play and be effective.
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