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Kickoffs and Touchbacks Question

Posted on 11/11/13 at 1:09 pm
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15407 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 1:09 pm
Since moving kickoffs to the 35, I have seen plenty of scenarios in which the return man fields the kick toward the back half of the endzone and then proceeds to simply step out of back or kneel it with one one foot out of the back resulting in a touchback. Got it. What would be the call if he fielded the kick, proceeded to take a step or two as if he was planning a return, then changes face and steps out of the back? Is it still a touchback?
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43463 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 1:11 pm to
yes as long as he doesnt go out past the goalline.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76476 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 1:11 pm to
Yes, still a touchback as long as he doesn't leave the endzone.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15407 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 1:12 pm to
What if he runs around the endzone and gets pushed out of the back by the kicking team? Still a touchback?

It's a dunb question, but one that was nagging me. Thanks.
This post was edited on 11/11/13 at 1:13 pm
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40949 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 1:18 pm to
Yes
Posted by KBeezy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
13529 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 1:38 pm to
He can start a legit return and get tackled in the end zone and it still be a touchback so long as he doesn't cross the end line
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

yes as long as he doesnt go out past the goalline.


Wrong....as long as the BALL doesn't go completely in the field of play.

It's the position of the ball, not the player.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15407 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 1:51 pm to
I'm going to get all of my dumb questions out there... Once a punt hits the ground, can there be an interference call on the punt returner? Lets imagine the punt takes a couple of bounces when the returner decides to make the move to field it. Can a player on the punting team block his path to the ball by laying him out?
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41157 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Once a punt hits the ground, can there be an interference call on the punt returner?


did he call for a fair catch?
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15407 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

did he call for a fair catch?


Does it matter?
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

Once a punt hits the ground, can there be an interference call on the punt returner?

No

It doesn't matter if he gives a valid or invalid or no fair catch signal. If the ball hits the ground, he loses protection and anyone can recover the ball. If the kicking team touches it first, it's illegal touching by the kicking team.

Here's where it gets good. If the kicking team touches the ball first and then the receiving team recovers and starts running with the ball....the runner is hit, fumbles, and the kicking team recovers the ball. The receiving team has the right to maintain possession at the spot of illegal touching. It gets more complicated if fouls occur.


BTW, your questions aren't dumb. The kicking game has it's own set of rules within the rules of the game.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40381 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 3:22 pm to
I do that in video games all the time.
Posted by BeYou
DFW
Member since Oct 2012
6023 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

Since moving kickoffs to the 35


I thought touchbacks are placed on the 25 not 35?
Posted by emoney
Westerville, OH
Member since May 2010
8642 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 3:47 pm to
He's talking about where the kickers kick off from.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53151 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 4:43 pm to
Ball hitting the ground makes a FC invalid.

Saw it a few weeks ago watching Tulane, fair catch called, ball bounces high, dude gets killed catching the ball. No call cause hitting the ground negated the FC call.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41157 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

did he call for a fair catch?

Does it matter?



Yes, if the punt returner calls for a fair catch and then blocks a player trying to down the ball on the field, it is a penalty.
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