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Johnson/Rice; Peterson/Dickerson records
Posted on 12/22/12 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 12/22/12 at 10:39 pm
With Gruden's take on Megatron's record being slightly tarnished because of this era of football, is there any case to say Dickerson's is as well because of football in that day and age?
What say you?
What say you?
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Posted on 12/22/12 at 10:41 pm to Phathead
I would argue what AP is doing is more impressive since he's playing in an era where the passing game has become more important than the running game.
Posted on 12/22/12 at 10:41 pm to Phathead
It's pretty much the same argument in reverse so yea I'd say so.
Posted on 12/22/12 at 10:42 pm to Phathead
They are equally difficult to me.
Posted on 12/22/12 at 10:43 pm to Phathead
quote:
is there any case to say Dickerson's is as well because of football in that day and age?
Not really
But you could argue that Dickerson's record isn't as impressive as Peterson's
Posted on 12/22/12 at 10:46 pm to Phathead
most amazing record
Norm Van Brocklin throwing for 554 yards in 1951
With all the many rule changes introduced to help passing, it still hasn't been broken
Norm Van Brocklin throwing for 554 yards in 1951
With all the many rule changes introduced to help passing, it still hasn't been broken
Posted on 12/22/12 at 10:47 pm to Phathead
I feel bad for current players. It's not Megatron's fault he plays in 2012 and not 1992
Posted on 12/22/12 at 10:49 pm to Kafka
That is pretty impressive
Posted on 12/22/12 at 10:51 pm to Phathead
Some people think OJ had the most impressive season (14 games)
Posted on 12/22/12 at 10:52 pm to RLDSC FAN
quote:
I would argue what AP is doing is more impressive since he's playing in an era where the passing game has become more important than the running game.
You could also make the argument the other way, that because teams respect the passing game so much now, more running lanes are open.
That being said, regardless of excuses, both records are impressive.
Posted on 12/22/12 at 10:53 pm to Phathead
quote:
What say you?
I think you have to consider the records they're breaking and how long they've been held despite numerous rule changes.
Look at some of the wide receivers we've seen since Jerry Rice. Some of the backs we've seen since Dickerson. I don't care what age it is. Those two guys are something special to be able to take them down.
Posted on 12/22/12 at 10:54 pm to brewhan davey
quote:
That is pretty impressive
There's actually an even more incredible record than that
According to NFL Films, a guy in the 1950s had something like 16 sacks in one game
But it was before sacks were an official stat -- it was actually before the usage "sack" was even coined -- so it isn't in the record book
Posted on 12/22/12 at 10:54 pm to brewhan davey
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that because teams respect the passing game so much now,
no team respects Ponders passing game
Posted on 12/22/12 at 10:55 pm to Kafka
Yeah, I knew sacks weren't an official stat for a long time.
Poor quarterback
quote:
According to NFL Films, a guy in the 1950s had something like 16 sacks in one game
Poor quarterback
Posted on 12/22/12 at 10:55 pm to BarbeTiger
Posted on 12/22/12 at 10:55 pm to brewhan davey
quote:
You could also make the argument the other way, that because teams respect the passing game so much now, more running lanes are open.
Ponder's passing?
Posted on 12/22/12 at 10:57 pm to brewhan davey
I remember Aikman got sacked 11 times his rookie year against the Eagles
Posted on 12/22/12 at 10:59 pm to Kafka
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I remember Aikman got sacked 11 times his rookie year against the Eagles
Those early seasons in the Aikman, Irvin and Smith years were pretty rough for the Cowboys (although Smith wasn't there yet at that point).
Posted on 12/22/12 at 11:02 pm to brewhan davey
quote:
You could also make the argument the other way, that because teams respect the passing game so much now, more running lanes are open.
I don't think rushing yardage has actually gone down (might have even gone up)
But you don't see as many feature backs these days getting the rock 20 times a game consistently over the course of a season
Posted on 12/22/12 at 11:04 pm to Powerman
There is definitely more of a committee approach, you're right.
I wasn't taking that stance in what I said earlier, I was just throwing that out there.
I wasn't taking that stance in what I said earlier, I was just throwing that out there.
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