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Posted on 12/21/12 at 6:40 pm to choupiquesushi
I'd like to see a lb for lb matchup between TX schools and LA schools. Find schools with good football programs and comparable enrollment and see how it pans out.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 6:44 pm to GhostofJackson
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I'd like to see a lb for lb matchup between TX schools and LA schools. Find schools with good football programs and comparable enrollment and see how it pans out.
there are more kids in the houston metro area than LA and MS combined.....
Posted on 12/21/12 at 6:47 pm to GhostofJackson
Curtis is a very mediocre school for a private school.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 8:27 pm to choupiquesushi
I'm sure Curtis could play with Katy and possibly be better. But bottom line, Curtis did not accomplish as much on the field as Katy this year. Katy was rolling Texas 5A powers by scores like 77-7 and 63-14.
It is one thing to get up to play at a high level a couple of times a year. It's another to have to do it week after week. It's why SEC teams schedule FCS teams out of league. The SEC schedule is a gauntlet.
Same with the Texas playoffs.
And Curtis' good wins don't look as good any more. Plant was defending state champ in Florida, but that was last year. This year, they got knockd out early. Same with St. Paul.
It is one thing to get up to play at a high level a couple of times a year. It's another to have to do it week after week. It's why SEC teams schedule FCS teams out of league. The SEC schedule is a gauntlet.
Same with the Texas playoffs.
And Curtis' good wins don't look as good any more. Plant was defending state champ in Florida, but that was last year. This year, they got knockd out early. Same with St. Paul.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 8:43 pm to GhostofJackson
I'd say Louisiana's best teams would compete well in Texas 4A. And exceptional teams like Curtis would do well in 5A. Would they win it? Hard to say because even in 4A, Curtis didn't have to play the week-in, week-out competition that you would face in Texas 5A.
The biggest thing that struck me as somebody from Louisiana who lived in Texas was schools like Curtis and West Monroe would lose their organizational advantage. In Louisiana, their coaching staff sizes and organization throughout their programs is superior. In Texas, WM and Curtis would not have an organizational advantage over a Katy, Southlake Carroll, Allen, Garland, etc. What is the biggest advantage for those programs here is the mainstream there.
It's the resources you can muster when you are in football-mad communities with ISDs that are willing to pay good coaches great salaries and with large coaching staffs.
The biggest thing that struck me as somebody from Louisiana who lived in Texas was schools like Curtis and West Monroe would lose their organizational advantage. In Louisiana, their coaching staff sizes and organization throughout their programs is superior. In Texas, WM and Curtis would not have an organizational advantage over a Katy, Southlake Carroll, Allen, Garland, etc. What is the biggest advantage for those programs here is the mainstream there.
It's the resources you can muster when you are in football-mad communities with ISDs that are willing to pay good coaches great salaries and with large coaching staffs.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 8:47 pm to CourseyCorridor
and the fact that Curtis' players begin the system in 4th grade and have it down to a science.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 8:55 pm to Rocket
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J.T. has always liked a nice, soft schedule
They did go to (overrated) Hoover High a few years ago.
But i agree, he schedules soft ... is that even debatable?
Posted on 12/21/12 at 9:13 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
It's hard when a lot of the best local teams won't play you. It's not like JT sits down and figures out which teams are the cupcakes and goes after them. He has to find teams that will actually play them and fit within the budget of the school. There are some boosters for the program, but it's not loaded. Money and scheduling is still a big concern.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 9:27 pm to CourseyCorridor
didnt West Monroe beat on of Texas best teams with Cedric benson?
Curtis, didnt they beat Katy within the last few yearS?
Curtis, didnt they beat Katy within the last few yearS?
Posted on 12/21/12 at 9:35 pm to Lester Earl
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didnt West Monroe beat on of Texas best teams with Cedric benson?
Yes
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Curtis, didnt they beat Katy within the last few yearS?
No
Posted on 12/21/12 at 10:14 pm to texastiger38
Curtis beat Lufkin maybe??
Posted on 12/21/12 at 10:20 pm to tigerbru17
Longview i think. Dont know how good they are
Posted on 12/21/12 at 10:32 pm to Lester Earl
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Longview i think. Dont know how good they are
At the time they were good. I think the same season Curtis beat Longview, Longview beat West Monroe.
If it wasn't the same season it was the year before/after, don't recall.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 10:41 pm to Lester Earl
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didnt West Monroe beat on of Texas best teams with Cedric benson?
Eric Winston was on that Midland Lee team too. They won their third straight Texas 5A title that year. West Monroe beat them 36-8. West Monroe also played Curtis that year and won 26-7.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 10:42 pm to texastiger38
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I think the same season Curtis beat Longview, Longview beat West Monroe.
Every time West Monroe has played Texas teams they've won/lost depending on the rules. When played by NCAA rules they've lost. When played by Federation rules, they've won.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 11:29 pm to Elleshoe
Rummel and Barbe could combine their teams together and Curtis would still beat them.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 11:35 pm to Elleshoe
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and the fact that Curtis' players begin the system in 4th grade and have it down to a science.
I think you'd find a similar culture at some of the Texas powerhouse programs. Katy doesn't start teaching their stuff in freshman ball, for example.
They don't have them all on the same campus, but they have the resources to build a system at those top programs.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 11:38 pm to Jwodie
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Rummel and Barbe could combine their teams together and Curtis would still beat them.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 11:51 pm to JJ27
That West Monroe team was one of the exceptional teams I was talking about. Some of those dominant Evangel teams were too. In the 80s/early 90s, Neville, Ruston and Ouachita used to routinely beat Northeast Texas 5A schools.
Don't get me wrong, if Curtis played in Texas, I'm sure they would be right there with the teams that contend in Texas. I'm just saying that it's tough to credit a 15-0 Louisiana 5A champion, regardless how good it is, with more than a 16-0 Texas 5A champion because of the depth of quality opponents in Texas. And it's completely absurd to rank a 2A Louisiana champion over a 16-0 Texas 5A champion because the body of work is completely not comparable. I mean, Springfield had a great season, but there are 200 5A schools in Texas who would run them off the field by 40. And that's who Curtis beat in the SEMI-FINALS.
Don't get me wrong, if Curtis played in Texas, I'm sure they would be right there with the teams that contend in Texas. I'm just saying that it's tough to credit a 15-0 Louisiana 5A champion, regardless how good it is, with more than a 16-0 Texas 5A champion because of the depth of quality opponents in Texas. And it's completely absurd to rank a 2A Louisiana champion over a 16-0 Texas 5A champion because the body of work is completely not comparable. I mean, Springfield had a great season, but there are 200 5A schools in Texas who would run them off the field by 40. And that's who Curtis beat in the SEMI-FINALS.
This post was edited on 12/22/12 at 12:03 am
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