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Jackie Robinson: "I Cannot Stand and Sing the Anthem. I Cannot Salute the flag"

Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:34 pm
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In 1972 Jackie Robinson wrote his autobiography. In it he reflected on how he felt about his historical legacy as a baseball player, a businessman and as a political activist. A political activism, it should be noted, which favored both sides of the aisle at various times. He supported Nixon in 1960, supported the war in Vietnam and worked for Nelson Rockefeller. He did not support Goldwater and did support the 1964 Civil Rights Act. He supported Humphrey against Nixon in 1968. He was no blind partisan or ideologue. When you find someone like that you can usually rest assured it’s because they’re thinking hard and thinking critically in a world where things aren’t always cut-and-dried.

As such, this statement from his autobiography, describing his memory of the first game of the 1947 World Series, is worth thinking about. Because it came from someone who spent a lot of time thinking:

"There I was, the black grandson of a slave, the son of a black sharecropper, part of a historic occasion, a symbolic hero to my people. The air was sparkling. The sunlight was warm. The band struck up the national anthem. The flag billowed in the wind. It should have been a glorious moment for me as the stirring words of the national anthem poured from the stands. Perhaps, it was, but then again, perhaps, the anthem could be called the theme song for a drama called The Noble Experiment. Today, as I look back on that opening game of my first world series, I must tell you that it was Mr. Rickey’s drama and that I was only a principal actor. As I write this twenty years later, I cannot stand and sing the anthem. I cannot salute the flag; I know that I am a black man in a white world. In 1972, in 1947, at my birth in 1919, I know that I never had it made."



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Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
144959 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:35 pm to
He kinda had to deal with a little different stuff though I'd say
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:36 pm to
see the thing is Jackie Robinson experienced actual discrimination and segregation
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:37 pm to
lolz.

Comparing kaperstink to jackie Robinson.

just lozy.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38000 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:53 pm to
American hero?

Or Uncle Tom?

Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38000 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 4:58 pm to
American hero?

Or Uncle Tom?

Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71431 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 5:08 pm to
Nobody called anybody an Uncle Tom.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 5:10 pm to
As others have said already, Robinson grew up in a time when people were actually oppressed. Kaepernick (and all other minorities out there) have never had to put up with oppression. They're afforded every single right and every single freedom that every other person in the US has. Hell, some could argue that they're even given more than whites through affirmative action and the likes. Kaepernick is a punk fricking bitch. Minorities continually oppress themselves with the way they act, the illegal activities they do, and ALWAYS voting for a party that's ALWAYS been the party that marginalizes people. It's not our fault they make up most of the poverty and prisons in this country. It's theirs and theirs alone.
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 5:12 pm
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
80854 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 5:14 pm to
And there it is

Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 5:18 pm to
Jackie Robinson was a US Army veteran. He put his money where his mouth is.
Posted by Sammobile
Hollywood South
Member since Jan 2009
22328 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

see the thing is Jackie Robinson experienced actual discrimination
Yea, good thing there's no more of that stuff going on in America
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118796 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 5:31 pm to
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Comparing kaperstink to jackie Robinson.


Yeah, very stupid comparison.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 5:34 pm to
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Yea, good thing there's no more of that stuff going on in America



Care to elaborate on all the alleged discrimination?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84584 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 5:45 pm to
Being proud and blessed to be an American =/= support for any injustices that occur under that flag. I'm not sure why that is so difficult for many to comprehend, and I really don't understand what it's supposed to do to enact change.
Posted by Sammobile
Hollywood South
Member since Jan 2009
22328 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 5:46 pm to
LINK

How about this for example.
Posted by 23hella
STL
Member since Feb 2014
1234 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 6:00 pm to
This fricking ridiculous. You have to be blind to believe minorities and white people have it just as easy in this country.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36104 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 6:05 pm to
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Nobody called anybody an Uncle Tom.



Several famous black people have been called Uncle Toms for disagreeing with CK.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 6:15 pm to
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This fricking ridiculous. You have to be blind to believe minorities and white people have it just as easy in this country.


No, I'm not trying to say that minorities have it as easy as white people. But that's through no fault of white people. Jim Crow ended long before most of the minorities today were born. And civil rights began like 50 years ago. So don't sit here and tell me that they don't have every fricking right that we do. They choose the life they have. Not me. That's the beauty of this country; you can be as great as you want to be. But it's a double edged sword. You can also be as low down as you want to be.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 6:22 pm to
Jackie ACTUALLY faced oppression in a very different America.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36104 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 6:22 pm to
The truth is somewhere in between.

Yes, there is still racism and it still does have some effect. Everything we are is affected in some ways by the complete history of our backgrounds, environments, chance, and opportunity.

But many of the biggest problems of crime and education are less about white people overtly discriminating against black people and more about interrupting cycles of violence - and conveying the importance of education to families that have not absorbed that as a priority.

#itscomplicated
#racismstillexists
#butracismisnteverythingorprobablymostthings
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