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Posted on 11/7/12 at 12:48 pm to STAUG95
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95 it was after the 02 season my senior year
That's right, my bad...
Posted on 11/7/12 at 1:08 pm to nothinonme
So for you to believe STM chokes every year that would mean that STM has the better team and finds a way to lose to an inferior opponent
STM was better than Karr last year?
STM was better than Acadiana in 2010?
How far would you like to go back?
Was STM better than Northside in 2004? Was STM better than Bastrop in 2005? Was STM better than Shaw in 2006?
Was STM better than WM in 2008?
I would agree that there are some glaring examples of STM losing in the playoffs to teams they should have beaten. Trovon Reed and Thibodaux in 2009 and Mandeville in 2007 immediately come to mind. However every program with a history of success has their own examples of failures.
No one ever says STM over achieves, but a lot of people say STM chokes. How many signees has STM fooball had in the last ten years? How many of them went to BCS schools?
So STM claws their way back into the game last year against Karr and takes the lead with little time left. Then a STM substitute CB that is probably now playing intramural flag football somewhere gets beat on a bomb by a KARR WR that is now playing in the Pac12 for Arizona. Is that a choke?
Acadiana beat STM 31-0 in the playoffs. Did STM choke then too?
Sometimes they are just better than you, sometimes they have an NFL caliber player (keiland williams, early doucet, etc) that beats you, and sometimes you just play like shite and get yourself beat.
STM chokes every year is a fallacy, some years they have choked and some years they just got beat by a better team or player
LINK
STM was better than Karr last year?
STM was better than Acadiana in 2010?
How far would you like to go back?
Was STM better than Northside in 2004? Was STM better than Bastrop in 2005? Was STM better than Shaw in 2006?
Was STM better than WM in 2008?
I would agree that there are some glaring examples of STM losing in the playoffs to teams they should have beaten. Trovon Reed and Thibodaux in 2009 and Mandeville in 2007 immediately come to mind. However every program with a history of success has their own examples of failures.
No one ever says STM over achieves, but a lot of people say STM chokes. How many signees has STM fooball had in the last ten years? How many of them went to BCS schools?
So STM claws their way back into the game last year against Karr and takes the lead with little time left. Then a STM substitute CB that is probably now playing intramural flag football somewhere gets beat on a bomb by a KARR WR that is now playing in the Pac12 for Arizona. Is that a choke?
Acadiana beat STM 31-0 in the playoffs. Did STM choke then too?
Sometimes they are just better than you, sometimes they have an NFL caliber player (keiland williams, early doucet, etc) that beats you, and sometimes you just play like shite and get yourself beat.
STM chokes every year is a fallacy, some years they have choked and some years they just got beat by a better team or player
LINK
Posted on 11/7/12 at 1:29 pm to supatigah
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Acadiana beat STM 31-0 in the playoffs. Did STM choke then too?
STM waxed Acadiana earlier in the year. That was arguably the best team Acadiana has ever had. I wouldn't say losing 31-0 is choking though. They lost to great teams throughout the years. Acadiana losing to catholic high in 2009 after giving up a huge lead at halftime? I would consider that choking.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 1:43 pm to FaSheaux
STM beat ACADIANA in week 5 then got blasted 31-0 in week 14
ACADIANA is a veer team that got much better as the season went on plus they had the motivation of the in eligible player forfeits
That was not a choke, that was domination
It is disappointing to hear a former STM player say they always choke in the playoffs. I expect that kind of perspective from opposing fans not someone that played the game
ACADIANA is a veer team that got much better as the season went on plus they had the motivation of the in eligible player forfeits
That was not a choke, that was domination
It is disappointing to hear a former STM player say they always choke in the playoffs. I expect that kind of perspective from opposing fans not someone that played the game
Posted on 11/7/12 at 1:56 pm to supatigah
I'd call that loss to West Monroe a choke. STM was up 21-0 at home and couldn't hang on.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 2:04 pm to supatigah
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It is disappointing to hear a former STM player say they always choke in the playoffs. I expect that kind of perspective from opposing fans not someone that played the game
That guy isn't affiliated with STM. He's what we would call a "troll". A butthurt one at that. I don't see how anyone who played football at STM would say anything like that. Most if not all the teams they have lost to are legit.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 2:09 pm to JJ27
Lol
It was STM 21-0 with 4 min left in the first quarter. Too bad for STM there were still three quarters left to play
then Paul Turner, KeKe Mingo, chuckie Hunter and Jordan Allen proceeded to tear shite up and WM beat STM 41-28
So you think STM choked that game away? You think STM was better than WM?
More like WM almost choked that game away to STM
A choke to me is losing to a team you have no business losing to or snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and outright beating yourselves. I don't see any Shame or call it a choke in losing to a team that is better than you or has a player that you simply can't stop
It was STM 21-0 with 4 min left in the first quarter. Too bad for STM there were still three quarters left to play
then Paul Turner, KeKe Mingo, chuckie Hunter and Jordan Allen proceeded to tear shite up and WM beat STM 41-28
So you think STM choked that game away? You think STM was better than WM?
More like WM almost choked that game away to STM
A choke to me is losing to a team you have no business losing to or snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and outright beating yourselves. I don't see any Shame or call it a choke in losing to a team that is better than you or has a player that you simply can't stop
Posted on 11/7/12 at 2:10 pm to FaSheaux
Good point
I took him at face value when I shouldn't have
I took him at face value when I shouldn't have
Posted on 11/7/12 at 2:13 pm to SammyTiger
Same song, second verse!!!! WM over Rummel for championship!
Posted on 11/7/12 at 2:19 pm to Big Floppy TDs
Posted on 11/7/12 at 2:24 pm to supatigah
It was DJ Banks that killed y'all. Turner was only a sophomore, although he did return a kickoff for a TD.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 2:33 pm to JJ27
oh yeah.....D.J. Banks that signed with Tulane
him too
Turner was the one that broke the game open for WM IIRC with the KO return
how can you possibly think STM choked that game away? They shouldnt have been within 21 points of WM. The 21-0 start was a fluke
him too
Turner was the one that broke the game open for WM IIRC with the KO return
how can you possibly think STM choked that game away? They shouldnt have been within 21 points of WM. The 21-0 start was a fluke
Posted on 11/7/12 at 3:03 pm to Big Floppy TDs
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Posted on 11/7/12 at 3:59 pm to supatigah
STM was way better than Karr last year.... Shoulda had that game won. STM was way better than Acadiana in 2010. As per their regular season win. Also in 2004 as well against Northside. Hundley just threw up the ball=int=they choked. And against WM, kiki mingo dominated STM by himself.I was at these games.
And you can't put the loss to Karr on Richard Hensarling..... If you go watch the play, Cody Krener slipped and had a fair shot to sack the QB. Plus Karr didnt score on that play. And the offense drive STM had before that was horrible. STM never had to claw their way back. It was a back and forth game.
A lot of people would say STM choked in the biggest game in Lafayette Parish history and probably the history of STM against Acadiana... When you play like shite and beat yourself thats called choking. When you eat something and literally choke on it and die, you basically kill yourself.... and great link. But neither STM or TCH will make it to the dome.
And you can't put the loss to Karr on Richard Hensarling..... If you go watch the play, Cody Krener slipped and had a fair shot to sack the QB. Plus Karr didnt score on that play. And the offense drive STM had before that was horrible. STM never had to claw their way back. It was a back and forth game.
A lot of people would say STM choked in the biggest game in Lafayette Parish history and probably the history of STM against Acadiana... When you play like shite and beat yourself thats called choking. When you eat something and literally choke on it and die, you basically kill yourself.... and great link. But neither STM or TCH will make it to the dome.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 4:01 pm to supatigah
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Good point
I took him at face value when I shouldn't have
Posted on 11/7/12 at 4:08 pm to supatigah
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Good point
I took him at face value when I shouldn't have
And you should take me at face value. Times have changed at STM. The attitude has changed from 2010 team/2011 team to more like back in 05/06..... From confidence to cocky. I love STM with all my heart and there is nothing more I want than for Coach Hightower and Coach Tidwell to win a state championship. But anyone knows that right now Karr and Neville are way above the caliber of TCH and STM. I talk to current players who know they are cocky. People on the sidelines who know they are cocky. You yourself posted on some board that STM would be in shootouts all year. What happens when STM meets a team with a defense such as Karr, Neville, Salmen? What happens if Brandon has a bad game like he did at Sulphur? What happens if Dozier starts coughing up the ball like he did at Central. No doubt that Coach Leblanc has the Oline disclipined, but they are undersized and they can get dominated at any point. And if one team can do that, its Karr. I'm not trashing STM. Im just pointing out that times have changed and that there are better teams than them that they play in the playoffs
Posted on 11/7/12 at 4:37 pm to supatigah
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how can you possibly think STM choked that game away?
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the 21-0 start
Posted on 11/7/12 at 5:09 pm to nothinonme
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STM was way better than Karr last year....
And you can't put the loss to Karr on Richard Hensarling..... If you go watch the play, Cody Krener slipped and had a fair shot to sack the QB. Plus Karr didnt score on that play. And the offense drive STM had before that was horrible. STM never had to claw their way back. It was a back and forth game.
Nobody in their right mind blames Hensarling, two players (Noil and Bennett) simply made a great play.
perhaps you should watch the highlights again and tell me which teams stands out on film:
LINK
the pass is at the 9:01 mark, Krener doesnt slip he jumps in the air and Noil throws a perfect ball over his hands. Sometimes shite happens
LINK /
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Karr defeats St. Thomas More on late drive, 35-31
Pat Mashburn, Contributing writer, November 26, 2011 12:02 a.m.
Lafayette — Sophomore quarterback Devante Noil passed to Jarrell Bennett for a 12-yard touchdown with 22 seconds remaining to cap a 94-yard drive, and the Karr defense made a key stop as the Cougars came from behind to defeat second-seeded St. Thomas More 35-31 in the Class 4A quarterfinals Friday night at St. Thomas More.
The thrilling, come-from-behind victory sets up a semifinals battle with third-seeded Lutcher.
Karr (10-3) had a lead for most of the game, until the third quarter with less than four minutes remaining when St. Thomas More defensive end Andrew Primeaux scooped up a fumble by Noil at the Karr 25 and ran to the 1. Matthew Flores hopped over the middle for the score, and Don Oliver added the extra point for a 31-28 lead.
STM trailed until 4 mins left in the third, then took the lead for the first time when Karr fumbled on their own end. They held the lead until under one minute left in the fourth qtr with Karr on their own 8 yd line. They went 92 yards in four plays to get the go ahead TD.
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After the both teams made defensive stops, Karr had one last shot with less than a minute left with the ball at its 6. Noil threw a 76-yard pass to Bennett. Two plays later, Noil went to Bennett again for the go-ahead score.
"I told our team (that) we play until we see zeros on the clock," Karr Coach Jabar Juluke said. "St. Thomas More is a very good, well-coached team, and we knew they would be tough to beat at their place."
Noil passed for 251 yards, completing 23 of 31 throws. Standish Dobar, who had 10 receptions entering the game, finished with 10 catches for 94 yards.
St. Thomas More couldn't find an answer for Noil, who completed all 13 of his passes for 116 yards and a touchdown and had 90 yards rushing in the first half. While Karr made a couple of early mistakes, including a turnover deep in its territory, the defense was able to limit the damage by stopping two drives inside the 5, resulting two field goals by Oliver, the longest from 25 yards.
Sandwiched between the field goals was a 46-yard interception return by Karr's Elcee Refuge, who stepped in front of a crossing route as Brandon Bergeron passed to Andrew Stevenson, St. Thomas More's leading receiver. Oliver's second field goal cut Karr's lead to 7-6 one minute into the second quarter.
Starting at their 10, Noil then drove Karr 90 yards on four plays, including a 62-yard run on the first play, then finished it with a 16-yard jaunt up the middle for the score. Carl Roberson added the extra point for 14-6 lead.
St. Thomas More showed quick-strike ability, as Jon Juneau topped Noil's run on the first play with an 80-yard touchdown run, and Oliver cut the margin to 14-13.
The Karr defense then came up with a turnover when Melvin Davis stripped the ball from St. Thomas More's Patrick Scott after a 9-yard run at the St. Thomas More 36. Noil didn't let the opportunity go to waste, completing three consecutive passes, capped by a 6-yard scoring strike to Terrance Howard, increasing the lead to 21-13. They scored one more touchdown with two minutes left in the half on a 1-yard run by Rasheed Davis to 28-13.
However, St. Thomas More fired back with less than a minute remaining, when Bergeron passed to Matthew Flores for a 30-yard touchdown. Flores also got the conversion run, slicing Karr's margin to 28-21 at the half.
The teams combined for more than 500 yards total offense in the first half.
so the team that lead almost the whole game won but you say STM was WAY better? now you say Karr is way better than STM BUT this is statistically the best offensive season STM has ever had with the records for:
Most points scored in a season
Most points per game
Most passing yards
Most receiving yards
Most receiving TDs
all broken this year against the same schedule the 2011 team played against (but in opposite home/away).
Posted on 11/7/12 at 5:23 pm to nothinonme
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STM was way better than Acadiana in 2010. As per their regular season win
I wouldn't say that they were way better or even better. They were pretty evenly matched to be honest. The difference was that STM chose to have their sh*tty game the second time around.
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