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Is it more difficult being a major college head coach than an NFL head coach?
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:30 am
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:30 am
Consider that during the season college coaches are responsible for game planning, practice, recruiting, trying to make sure that over 100 guys are going to class and doing what they are supposed to be doing 24/7. Recruiting is also year-round and involves a lot of travel and being away from the family.
The NFL coach has to have certain expectations for his players, but they aren't necessarily his responsibility. Also, scouting seems much more seasonal, along with draft preparation. I realize that both groups lead impossibly busy lives, I just think it's a little tougher on a guy trying to do everything at a major college football program.
Thoughts?
The NFL coach has to have certain expectations for his players, but they aren't necessarily his responsibility. Also, scouting seems much more seasonal, along with draft preparation. I realize that both groups lead impossibly busy lives, I just think it's a little tougher on a guy trying to do everything at a major college football program.
Thoughts?
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:32 am to High C
NFL. It's so hard to win consistently.
You're a coach in college and you can scoop up some track star with 14 inch hands and have him blowing by people at a major program.
You're a coach in the NFL and you see some kid from Towson doing it and you're like "WTF?! Where did this freak come from?"
You're a coach in college and you can scoop up some track star with 14 inch hands and have him blowing by people at a major program.
You're a coach in the NFL and you see some kid from Towson doing it and you're like "WTF?! Where did this freak come from?"
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:34 am to High C
NFL is more difficult and stressful
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:46 am to High C
NFL. Nicky couldn't hack it, and he's the best the college game has to offer.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:47 am to High C
College is harder. Recruiting is year round and you can't lose like 40% of your games and still be considered successful by putting together a good run in the playoffs every few years.
NFL the main thing is just getting lucky and finding a good QB.
NFL the main thing is just getting lucky and finding a good QB.
This post was edited on 11/20/15 at 10:50 am
Posted on 11/20/15 at 11:17 am to High C
Gotta be the NFL due to parity. 50% of college games are won in recruiting.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 11:20 am to High C
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This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 11/20/15 at 11:21 am to C
I think both have their big challenges. NFL you don't go recruiting but winning consistently is hard.
College- recruiting makes or breaks a program. And dealing with a hundred 18-22 year olds who are treated like gods has to be tough.
Both put a strain on family life with the time required during the season then all the off season demands. Glad I didn't choose a career in coaching.
College- recruiting makes or breaks a program. And dealing with a hundred 18-22 year olds who are treated like gods has to be tough.
Both put a strain on family life with the time required during the season then all the off season demands. Glad I didn't choose a career in coaching.
This post was edited on 11/20/15 at 11:23 am
Posted on 11/20/15 at 11:22 am to High C
College might require more time year round, but nfl is definitely tougher. The competition is dilute, you get a good player and he can dominate the game in college.
Need a lot of quality in the NFL and it's consistent quality, you don't draft well or sign poor free agents and it can derail you for years.
Need a lot of quality in the NFL and it's consistent quality, you don't draft well or sign poor free agents and it can derail you for years.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 11:29 am to htran90
I wouldn't necessarily say either.
NFL is probably much more difficult schematically. You don't have as much control and are reliant on the quality of the organization for which you are working. You're more like a really, really well-paid and esoteric operations guy.
Elite college coaches are more like CEO's. They have to be excellent at talent identification, talent development, overall organizational management, sales and relationship management, and so forth; a pro coach has a GM, a president, and an owner to worry about a lot of things with which a college coach concerns himself. They have to be solid schematically but not necessarily superstars.
Different challenges - not many college coaches have succeeded in the pros (though a few, like Johnson and Switzter, have been able to make the jump), but I don't think many good NFL coaches would necessarily be able to successfully make the jump down, either. I've managed both groups of 18 to 22 year olds and working professionals, and they require different things, too.
NFL is probably much more difficult schematically. You don't have as much control and are reliant on the quality of the organization for which you are working. You're more like a really, really well-paid and esoteric operations guy.
Elite college coaches are more like CEO's. They have to be excellent at talent identification, talent development, overall organizational management, sales and relationship management, and so forth; a pro coach has a GM, a president, and an owner to worry about a lot of things with which a college coach concerns himself. They have to be solid schematically but not necessarily superstars.
Different challenges - not many college coaches have succeeded in the pros (though a few, like Johnson and Switzter, have been able to make the jump), but I don't think many good NFL coaches would necessarily be able to successfully make the jump down, either. I've managed both groups of 18 to 22 year olds and working professionals, and they require different things, too.
This post was edited on 11/20/15 at 11:31 am
Posted on 11/20/15 at 11:35 am to AbuTheMonkey
NFL coaches will always have the advantage in recruiting bc they've been there and done that... likewise college coaches in the NFL face a respect hurdle from their players
Posted on 11/20/15 at 11:40 am to High C
NFL is much more difficult, there are college programs out there that are content with 6-8 wins forever.
A billion dollar franchise will only tolerate not getting to the big dance for so long.
I'm speaking primarily about job security.
A billion dollar franchise will only tolerate not getting to the big dance for so long.
I'm speaking primarily about job security.
This post was edited on 11/20/15 at 11:41 am
Posted on 11/20/15 at 11:55 am to C
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Gotta be the NFL due to parity. 50% of college games are won in recruiting.
This and 50% of recruiting is just name value, things mostly out of the recruiters control, so...
Posted on 11/20/15 at 12:23 pm to Tactical1
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there are college programs out there that are content with 6-8 wins forever.
He said major college coach.
Has a NFL coach ever been fired two years after winning the Super Bowl?
Posted on 11/20/15 at 12:33 pm to RandySavage
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Has a NFL coach ever been fired two years after winning the Super Bowl?
I suppose not, but Bill Callahan was fired 1 year after losing one.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 12:37 pm to RandySavage
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This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 11/20/15 at 12:39 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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Jimmy Johnson won the Superbowl in the 1993 season. Was fired before the 1994 season.
I was going to mention that one, but that parting seemed mutual.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 12:41 pm to Tactical1
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This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 11/20/15 at 12:51 pm to High C
They're both different animals.
When it comes to simply coaching/ X's and O's NFL is way harder. And they get fired way quicker.
However a college coach has to do so many different things that NFL coaches don't have to do (or don't have to do as much). Like recruiting, dealing with immature 18-21 year olds, worrying about NCAA violations, etc.
When it comes to simply coaching/ X's and O's NFL is way harder. And they get fired way quicker.
However a college coach has to do so many different things that NFL coaches don't have to do (or don't have to do as much). Like recruiting, dealing with immature 18-21 year olds, worrying about NCAA violations, etc.
This post was edited on 11/20/15 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 11/20/15 at 12:54 pm to High C
College coaches have more crap to deal with like recruiting and making sure the players are going to class etc., but winning in the NFL is much harder and you will get exposed with quickness if you're not a good coach
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