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I'm not blaming the refs, but this egregious miss killed the chance for exciting ending

Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:50 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69246 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:50 pm


That's a missed call. He was touching the ball, hand out of bounds. Gonzaga ball, period.

Might not have changed outcome, would have changed ending sequence.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:51 pm to
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That's a missed call. He was touching the ball, hand out of bounds. Gonzaga ball, period.


It is impossible to miss unless you did so intentionally. No other way to spin it.

ETA: What could that ref possibly be watching where he missed that hand? He was the one who called the tie-up, so how did he miss the hand right there?
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 11:02 pm
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36666 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:51 pm to
That's an exceptionally egregious missed call.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38119 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:52 pm to
Glad my team won. But that was the worst officiated game I can remember.
Posted by SlowEasyConfident
Member since Nov 2015
6650 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:53 pm to
It wouldn't have mattered if karnowski could make a layup. Gonzaga has no one to blame but themselves
Posted by tWildcat
Verona, KY
Member since Oct 2014
19292 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:53 pm to
UNC benefited from calls all tourney so it doesn't surprise me that the official didn't call that. With that said, Gonzaga had so many chances and just decided they didn't want to win.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19665 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:54 pm to
It was a terrible game. I can only hope that it was bad enough where actual legit changes will be made going forward.

I wouldn't hate seeing the games structured similarly to what they did in the NIT this year. They also desperately need to clean up loose ball / off ball fouls. Let them play.
Posted by Mouthulcer
Metairie
Member since Feb 2015
639 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:55 pm to
Is he grabbing his dick?
Posted by messyjesse
Member since Nov 2015
2028 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:55 pm to
Given the rest of the contest, I'm pretty confident that the ending was going to suck either way.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:55 pm to
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It wouldn't have mattered if karnowski could make a layup. Gonzaga has no one to blame but themselves




Not relevant.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45041 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:55 pm to
What about the phantom tip call on the air ball The zags shot? The one that they ended up getting a 3 on?

The refs sucked overall. Get over it
Posted by VA LSU fan
Virginia
Member since Dec 2007
7872 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:55 pm to
Sad part is it is review able.

Refs wanted UNC to win and they won.

Wanted it all tournament. UNC had help in four of their wins.
Posted by HoLeInOnEr05
Middle of the fairway
Member since Aug 2011
16834 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:57 pm to
No use. Zags are the only ones to get cucked by the refs. Lulz
Posted by SlowEasyConfident
Member since Nov 2015
6650 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:57 pm to
How is not relevant. Gonzaga had plenty of opportunities to make the winning plays
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:58 pm to
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What about the phantom tip call on the air ball The zags shot? The one that they ended up getting a 3 on?

The refs sucked overall. Get over it


The one where he slapped his hand for an obvious foul? That "missed" call?
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45041 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:58 pm to
Or that the polish dude travelled every time he touched the ball
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:59 pm to
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How is not relevant. Gonzaga had plenty of opportunities to make the winning plays


It's not relevant because UNC had the same type of chances and missed too. The teams played like garbage, but it doesn't excuse that kind of officiating, particularly on one of the most important possessions of the game.

This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 11:00 pm
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38119 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 11:03 pm to
For sure. If UNC wasnt playing, I probably turn that game off. Hard to watch when refs are that bad.
Posted by RocketPower13
Member since Jan 2017
2476 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 11:07 pm to
I don't blame refs for split second calls like that TBH. I did feel like the odd nature they called fouls led to Gonzaga big men being in foul trouble very early, but the pace of the game was set because when Gonzaga was playing it's best their momentum was halted by somewhat obscure foul calls in an inconsistently called game.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 11:11 pm to
It's tough to really explain. Gonzaga is a better overall team than North Carolina, but they couldn't manage to avoid the shite show game that UNC seems to impose every time they take the court. UNC played 4 atrocious games to watch this tournament. That seemed to be their thing. The refs calling everything made it even uglier.

UNC played great defense down the stretch, Berry hit some clutch shots, and Jackson had 3-4 possessions in a row where he was a positive impact. It wasn't gonna take much to swing this game in either team's favor. UNC made those plays in the last few minutes. Hurt Gonzaga not having Collins on the court for sure.
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