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I still am not sure how UVa and Duke are both getting 1 seeds?

Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:17 am
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:17 am
With most of the projections out there they are both listed as 1 seeds. Not that they are deserving, but one of the two will have a loss this weekend, due to the ACC tourney. There was a similar situation in 95 with UK and Arkansas going into finals of SEC as ranked 3 and 5.

I think the 1 seeds should be
UK
Winner of ACC
Arizona
Wisconsin
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:18 am to
Duke is getting a 1 seed no matter what.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:23 am to
They should if they win the ACC, but they are the 2 seed in their own conference. That to me does not justify a 1 seed. If they were the 1 in ACC and lost in the ACC I can see the argument even better.

But both do not deserve the 1, IMO.
This post was edited on 3/9/15 at 10:24 am
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:23 am to
Cuz duke is duke
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:23 am to
UVA is going to lose 2 more.

# 1 seeds.
Duke
UK
Wisky
Zona

Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:24 am to
2 more? They only have the ACC tourney left.
Posted by TN_Tigers
West Tennessee
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:25 am to
It opens up the debate of would you want a 1 seed out west or a 2 closer to home.

Obviously this year you'd rather not be a 2 in UK's bracket but 1 seed out west is still going to be on UK's side at least.
Posted by TN_Tigers
West Tennessee
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:26 am to
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UVA is going to lose 2 more.


Just when you thought a 14 team single elimination tourney was too many games

Now double elimination.

Let us know your auto bid by March 2016.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:27 am to
Duke has a better resume than Arizona even with one more loss. Quality wins or losses, either way it isn't that close.

However it's rare to see Wisconsin be the most western 1 seed.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:28 am to
Villanova is getting one over either Arizona or Wisconsin if they win their conference tournament. I'm guessing UVA loses in ACC tourney and falls off the 1 line and Wisconsin gets the last one if they win the B1G tournament.
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:29 am to
UVa can't lose twice. All that's left is the ACC tourney.

And why is everyone forgetting about Villanova? Higher RPI than Wisconsin, 11-1 record v. RPI top 50 to Wisky's 8-2, and unlike Wisconsin, no losses to a team ranked 100+ in the RPI. I think the Cats are clearly ahead of the Badgers in getting a one-seed (assuming both win their conference tourneys).

I'd go Kentucky, Zona, Vilanova, ACC tourney champ as my one seeds.
Posted by TN_Tigers
West Tennessee
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:29 am to
quote:

However it's rare to see Wisconsin be the most western 1 seed.


That would be weird. Could be Nova out west too.

I think Uconn came out of the West in 2011. Duke was sent out there as the 1.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:29 am to
But the question is, did they win the ACC? No they technically did not. So that to me is a factor. If they win the ACCT I have no issue with them being the 1.

But if Wisconsin and Arizona win the PAC 12 and B1G tourneys they will have something Duke does not, A regular season and tournament championship.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:29 am to
quote:

but they are the 2 seed in their own conference. That to me does not justify a 1 seed.
Irrelevant. They are both in the top four right now, and assuming they meet in the ACC title game, they still will both be top 4. LINK
Posted by KG5989
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:31 am to
This...

Being #2 seed in their conference tourney doesn't matter. Just means Duke is ahead of them.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41509 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:32 am to
2 more in ACC Tourney and Sweet 16 as a #2 seed.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:33 am to
quote:

I think the 1 seeds should be UK Winner of ACC Arizona Wisconsin



I agree with this...Only if Wisky and Zona win their conference titles.. If one of them fall, Nova should get the other...IMO Nova should get a #1 ahead of Duke anyway.....
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:34 am to
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Irrelevant.

Conference finish is a listed factor in determining seed. It's not dispositive, but it is hardly irrelevant. Winning your conference title means something. It's not impossible for Duke to get a one seed, but it is more difficult because their resume is missing that line item.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:42 am to
Duke beat a full strength uva at uva. That will play a role
Posted by Tubedog13
Member since May 2009
3495 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:53 am to
After this weekend the 1's will be UK, Duke, Villanova, Wisconsin. 2's will be Virginia, Arizona, Gonzaga, Kansas or Maryland.
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