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I have a question about wrasslin
Posted on 11/12/15 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 11/12/15 at 1:55 pm
This is not a flame, I haven't watched it in years but was a big fan as a child. we all can agree the story lines are fake. If the promoters decide who will be champion, why does Wikipedia list number of championships? If you read a wiki page of a wrestler you would think championships were actually fought for and accomplished.
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 1:58 pm to Jack Daniel
Why is seven time champ better than just being undefeated champ for a long time like Gilberg?
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:01 pm to Jack Daniel
I wonder if Pac-Man Jones' Wikipedia page lists him as a 1-time World Tag Team champion? Or David Arquette's has him as a World Heavyweight Champion?
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:05 pm to Jack Daniel
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If the promoters decide who will be champion, why does Wikipedia list number of championships? If you read a wiki page of a wrestler you would think championships were actually fought for and accomplished.
Why would you think that if you know what the product is all about?
Titles are "accomplished" in a way. Management puts the belt on the wrestlers or "entertainers" that have either proven or they feel have the potential to put butts in the seats.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:10 pm to Jack Daniel
you're right on a theoretical level, in that Vince can make anybody at any time the champion on his whim...
but in practice, guys are putting in YEARS and YEARS hoping for a shot at the belts, and if they're booked to win, it should rightly be seen as an accomplishment worthy of wikipedia
but in practice, guys are putting in YEARS and YEARS hoping for a shot at the belts, and if they're booked to win, it should rightly be seen as an accomplishment worthy of wikipedia
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:13 pm to chalmetteowl
That's my point. I'm not denying the physicality of wrestling or the hard work it takes but ultimately Vince is deciding who he wants as champ and gives it to him. Not exactly a statistical accomplishment.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:15 pm to Jack Daniel
Think of it more like oscars or Emmys than sports accomplishments.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:16 pm to Jack Daniel
quote:So do I
I have a question about wrasslin by Jack Daniel
Why did you post this shite on a sports board?
And btw it's "rasslin'"
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:17 pm to Goldrush25
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Titles are "accomplished" in a way. Management puts the belt on the wrestlers or "entertainers" that have either proven or they feel have the potential to put butts in the seats.
This.
A big chunk of the revenue for a wrestling company comes from the numbers that they draw at the gate. Your champions are typically going to be your headliners and, in turn, who most of the crowd is going to show up to see. By a guy having a title put on him, they are basically putting all of their trust in a guy to connect with the fans and drive revenue for the company. You're not going to see too many guys hold a title for years on end because that tends to get stale from an entertainment perspective after a while.
So when you see guys that are multi-time champions, that shows that they are good enough entertainers that the company was comfortable making them 'the man' several times over for several years.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:31 pm to Jack Daniel
Cena having more championships than flair 
Posted on 11/12/15 at 4:25 pm to Jack Daniel
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why does Wikipedia list number of championships? If you read a wiki page of a wrestler you would think championships were actually fought for and accomplished.
This dude authored the wiki pages
Posted on 11/12/15 at 4:28 pm to tigerpimpbot
It's part of the gimmick or kayfabe that is still kept alive. Remember people either think it's real or pretend it's real for the purposes of enjoying it.
It' also about building drama.
It' also about building drama.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 5:09 pm to Jack Daniel
quote:
the story lines are fake
The story lines are real story lines.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 5:22 pm to HogX
quote:
A big chunk of the revenue for a wrestling company comes from the numbers that they draw at the gate. Your champions are typically going to be your headliners and, in turn, who most of the crowd is going to show up to see. By a guy having a title put on him, they are basically putting all of their trust in a guy to connect with the fans and drive revenue for the company.
Yep. I remember reading a book by HBK in the 8th grade or so. I remember very distinctly him saying something like, "there are a lot of differences in 'on stage' and 'off stage' in the wrestling business... but 1 similarity is that being the champ makes you the #1 guy"
He then went on to list the reasons you pretty much did.
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