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Hypothetical Debate: Superbowl Salary Bonuses

Posted on 2/3/14 at 1:51 pm
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12044 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 1:51 pm
Its pretty common for NFL players to have bonuses related to playing in or making it to the super bowl.

Topic for debate: Should the Bronco's players receive this bonus.

Also: Do you think they should receive a penalty for crappy play by the Bronoco's organization?


Just some topics for debate. Im somewhere in the middle. Obviously if its in the contract, the team is going to have to pay it. Or take it to court and present a strong enough case that they don't owe the players. This won't happen, too big of a deal. The debate is for your opinion and hypothetical debate.

EDITED for those that can't read well.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 2:00 pm
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89827 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Topic for debate: Should the Bronco's players receive this bonus.


If it's in their contract, then it's not up for debate. Stupid question.


quote:

Also: Do you think they should receive a penalty for crappy play by the Bronoco's organization?


You're horrible...
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139837 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 1:54 pm to
Players Union wont let it happen. They finally got someone with a brain running that thing. If Upshaw was still in charge, you may could get away with it. But Smith actually antagonizes the owners.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 1:56 pm to
Well the XFL Championship losers didn't get any bonuses, so...
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41151 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 1:56 pm to
Manning's tax bill from New Jersey is more than the money he got for playing in the Super Bowl.
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Should the Bronco's players receive this bonus.

Yes. They played in the Super Bowl

quote:

Do you think they should receive a penalty for crappy play by the Bronoco's organization?

Pragmatically speaking, if they penalize a player for poor play, not only will they need to overpay for every free agent since they'll be known for screwing people over, but they'll also catch loads of heat from at least the NFL and NFLPA.

A contract is a contract. Screwing your players isn't a good way to keep your players happy.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12044 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

You're horrible...


Thanks for reading the post. I said at the end, its not actually up for debate. Hypothetical...so you're horrible.

This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 2:00 pm
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89827 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:02 pm to
I guess you can't read your own writing:

quote:

The debate is for your opinion and hypothetical debate.



Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12044 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

Pragmatically speaking, if they penalize a player for poor play, not only will they need to overpay for every free agent since they'll be known for screwing people over, but they'll also catch loads of heat from at least the NFL and NFLPA.


Absoultely. Im talking more of a down the road kind of thing. I mean as an orginazation, Denver was absolutely embarassed yesterday. There aren't many businessess that do very well by rewarding employees (or contract labor) for fiascos.

Obviously I understand they have to be paid whats in their contract. Im talking completely hypothetically, should these NFL teams start considering new bonus structures to account for incidents like this?

If the players are already guaranteed their money by getting to the game, then it doesn't matter if they shite the bed. Its similar to the players after their new contracts... How many players have you seen excel in the season immediately following the signing of their new contract.

Im just wanting to see what everyones opinion is. I've been on the fence about NFL for a while because you see players disapear after their new contract all too often.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86432 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Should the Bronco's players receive this bonus


quote:

players to have bonuses related to playing in or making it to the super bowl


Did the Broncos players make it to and play in the Super Bowl? Well there's your answer.

quote:

Do you think they should receive a penalty for crappy play by the Bronoco's organization?


Should 30 other NFL teams be penalized for not even making it to the super bowl? Should any team that misses the playoffs be penalized? What about teams who don't finish .500?
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12044 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:14 pm to
debating your opinion and hypothetical situation of having a team get paid bonuses to suck it up and make your orginzation look bad.

Im not debating the legality of not paying them for this game. Contracts are already in place... which was stated in my original post. I get that.

Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89827 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:18 pm to
Yeah, but the whole premise of the thread is like debating if a green unicorn is better looking in person than an orange unicorn.

I gave you my opinion on both of your questions, sorry you don't like them.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12044 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:20 pm to
All you did was post what was already in the OP, that its in their contract so yea they have to be paid.

Thats not an opinion, and I don't like or dislike it.

And you gave me your opinion that im horrible. Which wasn't asked for in the OP. But thanks for wasting your time posting in a thread about unicorns.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89827 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

All you did was post what was already in the OP, that its in their contract so yea they have to be paid.

Thats not an opinion



lol... Okay.


quote:

And you gave me your opinion that im horrible. Which wasn't asked for in the OP.



Still gave my opinion!


quote:

But thanks for wasting your time posting in a thread about unicorns.



Never said it was a waste of time - it's just a silly thread.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12044 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:27 pm to
It may not have been conveyed in the best manner. Which is evidenced by everyone responding the same exact way. lol

Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24804 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

hypothetical debate.



There isn't really anything to debate here. They made the game, they get their bonus. It is also my opinion that this may be the worst thread in MSB history.
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