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How much is one WAR worth?
Posted on 8/20/16 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 8/20/16 at 1:36 pm
I can't seem to find one clear cut answer. I've read $5 million, $6 million, $6.5 m, $7m, hell even $8m per WAR. Is there one number that the general consensus agrees upon. I want to know because I want to see how the top players compensation up until this point in their careers compares to their production. For example when I was looking at Mike Trout 2012-2016 season I saw that he had 45.1 WAR in that span and if I used $5m,$6m, and $7m then his actual value came out to a range from $225.5 m to $315.7 m over the 5 year span and his pay in that span was ~$27.5 m
Posted on 8/20/16 at 1:39 pm to JoseDeLeon
1) Find a list of all major league players listed by WAR
2) Compile an excel spread sheet with those players salaries
3) Divide the salary by the WAR
4) Add up all the ratios and divide by the number of players
5) Your Answer
2) Compile an excel spread sheet with those players salaries
3) Divide the salary by the WAR
4) Add up all the ratios and divide by the number of players
5) Your Answer
Posted on 8/20/16 at 1:40 pm to KosmoCramer
Damn, that sounds like a lot of work but I would gladly pitch in in 50 cents for the research to be done
Posted on 8/20/16 at 1:42 pm to JoseDeLeon
I personally think putting WAR to a salary number is not a good meter to judge on how to pay someone.
DH's will have a shitty WAR since they don't play defense, but they will still get paid.
If you're talking about players like Trout, Harper, Altuve, Machado, Arenado you just make them the highest paid player in the league when the time comes, or at least highest paid at their positon in Machado and Arenado's cases.
I think with lesser players you're setting a dangerous precedent in figuring salary by a sabremetric.
DH's will have a shitty WAR since they don't play defense, but they will still get paid.
If you're talking about players like Trout, Harper, Altuve, Machado, Arenado you just make them the highest paid player in the league when the time comes, or at least highest paid at their positon in Machado and Arenado's cases.
I think with lesser players you're setting a dangerous precedent in figuring salary by a sabremetric.
Posted on 8/20/16 at 1:42 pm to JoseDeLeon
I have seen between $6-8 million. There is no one specific answer.
Posted on 8/20/16 at 1:44 pm to JoseDeLeon
Cardinals prospect Alex Reyes is already worth .5 WAR (Baseball Reference). He's paid the league minimum. So 1 WAR = 2x League min.
Not really though. I've seen the $8MM number thrown around for 2016 a lot.
Not really though. I've seen the $8MM number thrown around for 2016 a lot.
Posted on 8/20/16 at 2:15 pm to JoseDeLeon
Dear Jose,
all such numbers are set by the market.
You start by scouting. I have the eye. I have seen guys for one game and knew for sure. I saw McHale dominate Joe Barry Carroll for the Big Ten championship. People picked Carroll first. Boston gets McHale AND Centenary star Robert Parrish. The greatest GM in NBA history made that deal.
all such numbers are set by the market.
You start by scouting. I have the eye. I have seen guys for one game and knew for sure. I saw McHale dominate Joe Barry Carroll for the Big Ten championship. People picked Carroll first. Boston gets McHale AND Centenary star Robert Parrish. The greatest GM in NBA history made that deal.
Posted on 8/20/16 at 2:24 pm to JoseDeLeon
It's a weird thing to figure out. Young cost controlled players that put up huge WAR (Betts, Boegarts, Altuve, ect) skew it low.
Posted on 8/20/16 at 2:31 pm to JoseDeLeon
Fangraphs throws around a little over 8 million
This post was edited on 8/20/16 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 8/20/16 at 2:31 pm to JoseDeLeon
Usually a WAR is trillions of dollars
Posted on 8/20/16 at 2:52 pm to Jcorye1
But you also have guys like Arod who had a -1.1 war and made 21 million
Posted on 8/20/16 at 3:01 pm to LSShoe1030
Well that was a typical deal where you pay a premium for the prime of the player. Granted, A-Rod dropped pretty quick.
Posted on 8/20/16 at 4:53 pm to DollaChoppa
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Damn, that sounds like a lot of work but I would gladly pitch in in 50 cents for the research to be done
Really wouldn't be hard with the data. Just need to a find a list with WAR and yearly salary.
Or just find the total number of salary for the whole league, get the list of everyone's WAR, have excel add them together, and divide total salary by WAR
Posted on 8/20/16 at 5:08 pm to KosmoCramer
I did it and it came out to $5,706,758.039 per WAR
Posted on 8/20/16 at 5:36 pm to JoseDeLeon
Something more than Holliday's cost per unit war with the cards because his contract is widely considered a good buy for the team
Pay lags performance like all star selections for small market players do. Young guys get less but on the back end their name gets them more than the mean
Pay lags performance like all star selections for small market players do. Young guys get less but on the back end their name gets them more than the mean
Posted on 8/20/16 at 7:36 pm to JoseDeLeon
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How much is one WAR worth?
Absolutely nothing. (Say it Again!!)
Posted on 8/20/16 at 7:38 pm to McCaigBro69
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DH's will have a shitty WAR since they don't play defense, but they will still get paid.
DH isn't a real baseball player anyway.
Posted on 8/20/16 at 7:41 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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DH isn't a real baseball player anyway.
So you think Big Papi isn't a legit player
Posted on 8/20/16 at 8:17 pm to McCaigBro69
I think he is one of the greatest hitters of all time but it's kinda guy dude never had to play a lick of defense.
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