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How much did Brady pay Jim Miller to not vote Manning for MVP?
Posted on 2/2/14 at 5:45 am
Posted on 2/2/14 at 5:45 am
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NEW YORK – Tom Brady still has one record Peyton Manning can't seem to break. Brady is still the only unanimous Associated Press NFL MVP winner.
Manning, to the surprise of nobody, will be given his record fifth NFL MVP award, according to the Denver Post. The NFL has its annual honors show on Saturday night. And Manning's MVP should have been unanimous after he broke records for passing yards and passing touchdowns in a season and led the Broncos to Super Bowl XLVIII. But it's hard to get 50 people to agree on anything.
The Post reported that Jim Miller, a former NFL quarterback and Sirius XM NFL Radio host, revealed he cast a vote for Brady. The 50 voters only vote for one person on the ballot. Brady or another player might have also received votes, but at very least Miller gave Brady his vote. So Brady's 2010 MVP award remains the only one in the AP's MVP history to be unanimous.
"It pains me because Peyton had such a historic season," Miller told the Post. "He is the offensive player of the year, no question. But having played the position, when I looked at who had the most value to his team, I thought Tom Brady carried that team the same way Adrian Peterson carried Minnesota last year."
Brady is a great player, but it's absurd that Manning didn't win unanimously. He had what is clearly one of the greatest NFL seasons of all time, and probably the best one ever. Denver had the better team this year, and beat the Patriots in the AFC championship game for good measure. Manning had 5,477 yards and 55 touchdowns, compared to 4,343 yards and 25 touchdowns for Brady. Manning even threw one fewer interception, with his 10 to Brady's 11. There's no significant measure in which Brady was better, except that Manning had better teammates. That shouldn't be a reason to not vote for someone. And anyone who uses the strict "most valuable" definition as a reason to not vote for Manning obviously has paid no attention to what Manning does in a locker room and meeting rooms for a team. The Broncos are basically running his offense.
What a travesty...
What does the MSB think of Jim Miller's decision? Do you think he was justified in picking Brady for MVP? Why not Brees then, if we are talking about a single player carrying a team? The Saints without Brees is like a 5-11 team, rather than a 11-5 team that they were this year.
ETA: So Jim Miller won a ring as a back up with the Pats. I guess he forgot to take his homer glasses off. It figures. I am surprised his Twitter hasn't blown up yet - @15miller
This post was edited on 2/2/14 at 6:10 am
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 7:46 am to stendulkar
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"It pains me because Peyton had such a historic season," Miller told the Post. "He is the offensive player of the year, no question. But having played the position, when I looked at who had the most value to his team, I thought Tom Brady carried that team the same way Adrian Peterson carried Minnesota last year."
Manning clearly had the better season, and he acknowledges that, but he's using a different criteria: who meant the most to their team. I guess that can be debatable between the two. I'm okay with it since he was able to back up his stance and as long as he sticks that criteria every year.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 7:48 am to stendulkar
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Why not Brees then, if we are talking about a single player carrying a team? The Saints without Brees is like a 5-11 team, rather than a 11-5 team that they were this year.
Peyton should have been unanimous, but that's a real dumb comparison. Saints have Graham, Colston, Sproles, among others, who are all more talented than what the Pats were running out there.
The Pats offense was designed around one guy who was hurt essentially the whole season and a murderer. They made the AFC title game
This post was edited on 2/2/14 at 7:49 am
Posted on 2/2/14 at 7:49 am to stendulkar
count move by Miller.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 7:58 am to stendulkar
I would burn Miller at the stake. How can anyone have been more valuable than Manning?
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:11 am to Slickback
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but he's using a different criteria: who meant the most to their team.
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Manning had 5,477 yards and 55 touchdowns
It's pretty obvious. No matter the criteria.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:16 am to stendulkar
The Pats would be shite without TB this year, so I don't have an issue, although I'm fine with PM getting MVP
This post was edited on 2/2/14 at 8:17 am
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:42 am to Slickback
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I guess that can be debatable between the two.
You guess that can be debatable? It's only just about the most subjective argument one could make. He might as well said that he voted for Brady because he's prettier.
There is absolutely no way to quantify what either team would have been without either player. So there's no way to tell who is more important to their team.
And all the nonsense about "Brady had no talent around him" needs to stop. D Thomas and Decker weren't household names before Manning got to Denver. And at the start of the season no one knew who Julius Thomas was, and Moreno was well on his way to total bust status.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:43 am to SpartyGator
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The Pats would be shite without TB this year, so I don't have an issue, although I'm fine with PM getting MVP
and the broncos would have been in the super bowl without manning?
c'mon, man
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:46 am to stendulkar
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count move by Miller.
Take away his voting rights
Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:46 am to quail man
It's the league's most valuable player, not who was most valuable to their team. If that were the case you would give it to a guy like Calvin Johnson or even Philip Rivers.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 9:36 am to stendulkar
Haters gonna hate 
And the same people bitching about this are the same ones that wanted to give Manning the MVP the year he didnt play because he showed he was "the most valuable"
And the same people bitching about this are the same ones that wanted to give Manning the MVP the year he didnt play because he showed he was "the most valuable"
This post was edited on 2/2/14 at 9:38 am
Posted on 2/2/14 at 9:40 am to wildtigercat93
I can see this guy's argument. Without Manning the Broncos have enough talent to get to the playoffs and possibly the AFC Championship. Without Brady this year, the Patriots don't make the post-season.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 9:40 am to stendulkar
Tom Brady is obviously very valuable to the Pats. Just look at what happened to them a few year ago when he missed the entire season.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 9:46 am to SPEEDY
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Tom Brady is obviously very valuable to the Pats. Just look at what happened to them a few year ago when he missed the entire season.
Oh this was an MVP vote for 2008?
Posted on 2/2/14 at 9:50 am to wildtigercat93
Sure
Posted on 2/2/14 at 9:54 am to wildtigercat93
in 2008 they went from 16-0 to 11-5 and played a weak arse schedule in 2008. I could say that even tim fricking tebow won a playoff game in denver so peyton going from 8-8 to 13-3 isnt that impressive
Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:05 am to wildtigercat93
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And the same people bitching about this are the same ones that wanted to give Manning the MVP the year he didnt play because he showed he was "the most valuable"
That sounds made up.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:06 am to jacks40
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That sounds made up.
It happened. A lot on here.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:11 am to wildtigercat93
People were joking about it yes just to pint how much manning meant to the colts, they weren't being serious.
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