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How do you feel about players talking about wanting personal records and awards?

Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:09 pm
Posted by LeonPhelps
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:09 pm
I think it should be like Fight Club. First rule is to never discuss Fight Club. I think personal records and awards should be the same. Yes, these guys obviously want the personal records and awards, but the main goal is the team and the focus should be exclusively the team. Take a cue from Manning. He always sidesteps a discussion about a personal record or award while Adrian Peterson (whom I have a ton of respect for, so do not misinterpret me) talked about wanting the rushing record and the MVP trophy.

I just think it is not the highest road you could take to draw attention to yourself in that way in a team sport.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:16 pm to
i think ADs team was more upset that he didn't get the record than he was. it was a mission/goal for the vikings the latter part of this year
Posted by barry
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:19 pm to
I just like it when athletes are honest. If it really doesn't mean much to you then fine but don't try and feed me bullshite when it does.
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:22 pm to
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I just like it when athletes are honest. If it really doesn't mean much to you then fine but don't try and feed me bullshite when it does.


I would rather they remain humble and at all times try to deflect attention away from themselves and toward the team.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:24 pm to
99% of the time, when an athlete tries to be the best player he can be, he is helping the team succeed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:26 pm to
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I would rather they remain humble and at all times

you don't understand what it takes to be a top-flight sports performer

cockiness is part of their greatness
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:28 pm to
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99% of the time, when an athlete tries to be the best player he can be, he is helping the team succeed.

agreed

if his behavior is within the playbook, i don't see waht's the problem
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:29 pm to
No kidding. Don't get me wrong, humility is a great virtue and it is refreshing to see in football, but get real here. It's a competitive sport, not a church raffle.
This post was edited on 1/2/13 at 7:31 pm
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:33 pm to
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you don't understand what it takes to be a top-flight sports performer

cockiness is part of their greatness


There is a difference between cockiness and confidence. Newton is cocky and a POS. Manning, Brady, and Brees are confident but not cocky. You never hear any of them discuss personal accolades. I want every NFL player to show the same level of humility and character. I cannot stand showboats.
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:34 pm to
Be humble in victory and gracious in defeat.
Posted by Dr. 3
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:34 pm to
Just dont give me some bullshite. If it matters to you let me know. It wasnt as important to some as it was others, but there is always a hint of moral superiority if someone says "as long as we win" or "I dont look at stats". As if distracts the LT from blocking.

Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:35 pm to
I like it.
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:35 pm to
i think players should aspire to be the absolute best they can be. when a player such as AD has a legitimate chance to break a record and he is asked a question about breaking that record, i see no reason why he should side step the question. he never answered those questions in a cocky manner; he was asked questions and answered them honestly. IMO, that is the best way to go.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:35 pm to
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I want every NFL player to show the same level of humility and character. I cannot stand showboats.

well i, like another poster, hate liars

i'd rather people just act how they are and not fake it like those guys do
Posted by Dr. 3
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:35 pm to
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Be humble in victory and gracious in defeat.



How is that mutually exclusive from wanting to stand out or be recognized by your peers?
Posted by RonFNSwanson
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:36 pm to
I like honesty. I hate all the PC talk coaches and players usually use.
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:37 pm to
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How is that mutually exclusive from wanting to stand out or be recognized by your peers?


it absolutely is NOT mutually exclusive.
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:37 pm to
You guys need to read Think Like A Man. Much has been lost since the greatest generation's time.
Posted by Dr. 3
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:37 pm to
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Newton is cocky and a POS. Manning, Brady, and Brees are confident but not cocky.

Dude no one chickenheads out there than Brady. He leads the league in first down signals.
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:38 pm to
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Dude no one chickenheads out there than Brady. He leads the league in first down signals.


I have no clue what that set of sentences means. "Chickenheads"? First down signals?
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