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Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:11 pm to
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Whens the last time won a title again????? they have both won a title in the last five years and are both obviously the most consistent programs. this is more fact than opinion, honestly


I know this. Just messing with ya. UK has it spread out more but What UCLA did in the late 60's and into the 70's was the most dominante in NCAA history. and puts them #1 in my book.
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:15 pm to
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UCLA had far and away the best stretch but I'd put UK number 1. All but one of UCLA's championships came within an 11 year period. UK has titles in 5 decades.



I personally have North Carolina as my #1 all-time program because they've had to compete against better competition. The ACC is a far stronger basketball conference historically than the SEC and Pac-12 and the way UNC has dominated that conference is more impressive to me than a program like Kentucky winning a million conference championships in the SEC.
This post was edited on 1/27/13 at 12:17 pm
Posted by Bluegrass_Cat
GVL, SC
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:26 pm to
I'd put UK number one (bias aside) based upon long-term consistence and sustained success. Like one poster said most of UCLA's titles came within a 11 year window.

And they haven't won a title since when...mid 90s??
Posted by TxTiger82
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:29 pm to
UCLA is the obvious choice but they haven't done too much post-Wooden, besides one championship in the 90s.

Also, you left Kansas off your list, for some reason. They belong in the conversation with Kentucky and North Carolina.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:35 pm to
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I personally have North Carolina as my #1 all-time program because they've had to compete against better competition


you have a good point.And LOOK at the amount of players you can name off the top of your head that went to NBA and DID something.
Jordan
Perkins
Wothry
Douerty
Vince Carter
Jerry Stackhouse
Jamall Mashburn
Rasheed Wallece

Just to name a few... Now give a DUKE list??????
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:46 pm to
Kentucky and it's not that close. (yes, I know I'm biased).

UCLA won 10 of its 11 titles in a 12 year span. UK/UNC/Kansas have all won over many decades and are the three winning est programs of all times.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:13 pm to
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kansas and duke are currently the best programs, however. not that that really means shite.


You have UK #1 but you do not think we are currently...explain what you mean currently.
This post was edited on 1/27/13 at 1:20 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:16 pm to
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Kentucky and it's not that close. (yes, I know I'm biased


Give me some facts to prove this.
Posted by WildcatMike
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:19 pm to
PJ, Good gawd man...you did not know when Duke and Kansas won a title last

We know you have a hate for Kentucky.
Posted by oak71
Mesa, AZ
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:34 pm to
UCLA- 11 titles.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:39 pm to
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John Wooden is probably the greatest college basketball coach of all timee



Probably?
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:44 pm to
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you have a good point.And LOOK at the amount of players you can name off the top of your head that went to NBA and DID something.
Jordan
Perkins
Wothry
Douerty
Vince Carter
Jerry Stackhouse
Jamall Mashburn
Rasheed Wallece

Just to name a few... Now give a DUKE list??????


God God you are dumb as a box of rocks! Off of the top of my head I will go with:

Shane Battier
Grant Hill
Carlos Boozer
Elton Brand
Correy Magaette
Kyrie Irving
Luol Deng
Gerald Henderson
Mike Dunleavey
Austin Rivers
Christian Laettner
JJ Redick
Posted by ummagumma
Member since Aug 2012
101 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 2:36 pm to
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Kentucky and it's not that close. (yes, I know I'm biased Give me some facts to prove this.


Here you go...

All Time Wins: 2103 (NCAA rank #1)
All Time Winning Percentage .763 (NCAA rank #1)
NCAA Championships: 8 (NCAA rank #2)
NCAA Championship Game Appearances: 11 (NCAA rank #2)
Final Four Appearances: 15 (NCAA rank #3)
Final Four Games Played: 26 (NCAA rank #4)
Final Four Wins: 19 (NCAA rank #2)
Elite-8 Appearances: 34 (NCAA rank #1)
Sweet-16 Appearances: 39 (NCAA rank #1)
NCAA Tournament Appearances: 52 (NCAA rank #1)
NCAA Tournament Wins: 111 (NCAA rank #1)
NCAA Tournament Games Played: 157 (NCAA rank #1)
NCAA Tournament Winning Percentage: .707 (NCAA rank #4)
Total Postseason Tournament Appearances (NCAA and NIT): 60 (NCAA rank #1)
NBA Draft Picks: 106 (NCAA rank #1)
All-Americans: 55 (NCAA rank #1)
All-American Total Selections: 85 (NCAA rank #1)
First Team Consensus All-Americans: 19 (NCAA rank #2)
First Team Consensus All-American Total Selections: 24 (NCAA rank #4)
AP Poll Top-20/25 Weeks Ranked All Time: 787 (NCAA rank #2)
AP Poll Top-10 Weeks Ranked All Time: 628 (NCAA rank #1)
AP Poll Top-5 Weeks Ranked All Time: 417 (NCAA rank #1)
AP Poll #1 Weeks Ranked All Time: 99 (NCAA rank #4)
Final AP Poll Top-25 Finishes: 48 (NCAA rank #1)
Final AP Poll Top-20 Finishes: 48 (NCAA rank #1)
Final AP Poll Top-15 Finishes: 43 (NCAA rank #1)
Final AP Poll Top-10 Finishes: 40 (NCAA rank #1)
Final AP Poll Top-5 Finishes: 28 (NCAA rank #1)
Final AP Poll #1 Finishes: 9 (NCAA rank #1)
Final UPI/Coaches' Poll Top-25 Finishes: 46 (NCAA rank #1)
Final UPI/Coaches' Poll Top-20 Finishes: 45 (NCAA rank #1)
Final UPI/Coaches' Poll Top-15 Finishes: 42 (NCAA rank #1)
Final UPI/Coaches' Poll Top-10 Finishes: 38 (NCAA rank #1)
Final UPI/Coaches' Poll Top-5 Finishes: 29 (NCAA rank #1)
Final UPI/Coaches' Poll #1 Finishes: 8 (NCAA rank #1)
Total 20-Win Seasons: 56 (NCAA rank #1)
Total 25-Win Seasons: 31 (NCAA rank #2)
Total 30-Win Seasons: 13 (NCAA rank #1)
Total 35-Win Seasons: 5 (NCAA Rank #1)
Average Victories Per Season Played: 19.1743119266 (NCAA rank #3)
Average Losses Per Season Played: 5.95412844036 (NCAA rank #1)
Total Winning Seasons: 92 (NCAA rank #2)
Total Non-Losing Seasons (.500 or better): 95 (NCAA rank #2)
Total Coaches With a NCAA Championship Game Appearance: 5 (NCAA rank #1)
Total Coaches With Multiple NCAA Championship Game Appearances: 3 (NCAA rank #1)
Total Coaches with a Final Four Appearance: 5 (NCAA rank #2)
Total Coaches With Multiple Final Four Appearances: 4 (NCAA rank #2)
Total Decades With a NCAA Championship Game Appearance: 6 (NCAA rank #2)
Total Decades With Multiple NCAA Championship Game Appearances: 4 (NCAA rank #1)
Total Decades With a Final Four Appearance: 7 (NCAA rank #1)
Total Decades With Multiple Final Four Appearances: 5 (NCAA rank #1)
Total Coaches With A NCAA Championship: 5 (NCAA rank #1)
Total Coaches With Multiple NCAA Championships 1 (NCAA rank #2)
Total Decades With a NCAA Championship: 5 (NCAA rank #1)
Total Decades With Multiple NCAA Championships: 3 (NCAA rank #1)
Total Decades #1 in Total Wins (since 1930): 1 (NCAA rank #2)
Total Decades Top-5 in Total Wins (since 1930): 4 (NCAA rank #1)
Total Decades Top-10 in Total Wins (since 1930: 7 (NCAA rank #1)
Total Decades #1 in Winning Percentage (since 1930): 2 (NCAA rank #1)
Total Decades Top-5 in Winning Percentage (since 1930): 6 (NCAA rank #1)
Total Decades Top-10 in Winning Percentage (since 1930) 7 (NCAA rank #1)
Conference Regular Season Championships: 47 (NCAA rank #2)
Conference Tournament Championships: 28 (NCAA rank #1)
National Attendance Titles: 24 (NCAA rank #1)

(Of the 64 major categories listed above, Kentucky is #1 in 44 of them, #2 in 14 of them, #3 in 2 of them, and #4 in 4 of them.)

Kentucky Can also lay claim to several individual achievements for both players and coaches:

13 players winning NBA Championships a total of 18 times
10 players named NBA All-Star a total of 17 times
12 Olympic Gold Medal winners
8 Naismith Hall-of-Fame members
5 players named National Player-of-the-Year
6 head coaches named National Coach-of-the-Year a total of 12 times
7 head coaches named Conference Coach-of-the-Year a total of 21 times
131 players named All-Conference a total of 224 times
77 players named All-Conference Tournament a total of 113 times
12 players named Conference Player-of-the-Year a total of 14 times
18 players named All-NCAA Final Four a total of 24 times
48 players named All-NCAA Regional a total of 62 times
11 players named NCAA Regional Most Outstanding Player a total of 12 times
5 players named NCAA Final Four Most Outstanding Player a total of 6 times
72 players who played in the NBA at least one season
60 1000 point scorers
42 players named McDonald's All-American
11 times a #1 seed in the NCAA Tournament

Kentucky also holds several other NCAA records and various additional accomplishments:

Kentucky has 2 NIT Titles (1946, 1976), 2 Helms Titles (1933, 1954), 2 undefeated seasons (1912, 1954), 5 Sugar Tournament Championships (1937, 1939, 1949, 1956, 1963), a league best all time SEC regular season record of 907-251(.783), and a league best all time SEC Tournament record of 119-23 (.834).

Kentucky holds the NCAA record for Consecutive Non-Losing Seasons (60), for Consecutive Home Court Victories (129), and for Total Victories in a Season (38).

Kentucky plays in the nation's largest basketball arena (Rupp Arena, capacity: 23,500), and has both the nation's largest radio and television affiliate networks.

Kentucky has made a 3-point basket in 847 consecutive games (3rd-most all time), has won 16 of the last 17 National Attendance Titles (including the last 7 in a row), is the only school to win multiple NCAA (8) and NIT (2) Championships, is the only school to have 5 different NCAA Championship coaches, is the only school to win NCAA Championships in 5 different decades, and is the only school to win multiple NCAA Championships in 3 different decades.

Kentucky has played before both the largest regulation basketball game crowd in history (78,129), and the largest Final Four Crowd in history (75,421).

Kentucky was the first school (in 2010) to have 5 players selected in the 1st-Round of the NBA draft, is the only school to have both the #1 and #2 picks in the NBA draft during the same year (in 2012), is the only school to have 6 players drafted in the first two rounds of the NBA draft in one year (in 2012), is the only school to have two different coaches win a NCAA Championship within the same decade (the 1990's), and also was the first school to reach both the 1000-win and 2000-win victory plateaus.
Posted by ummagumma
Member since Aug 2012
101 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 2:39 pm to
IF you really look at that list...it's not close.

And UNC is #2.
Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
14783 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 3:03 pm to
UCLA by far.

Posted by oak71
Mesa, AZ
Member since Jun 2008
2580 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 3:09 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/27/13 at 3:12 pm
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 3:12 pm to
I'm as big a UCLA fan as there is here, but the landslide vote in this thread is humorous. As sans Wooden's dominant decade-plus, and his NBA Alltimers from that stretch..

The remainder of UCLA's Hoop accolades would be pulling up the rear behind Ky, UNC, Ind, and Kan.

Fla Gator Foots aren't Bama, Notre, nor Okla, Neb..as consistency across decades,with natty titles sprinkled across decades and HCs, count for a lot!

The Big Red Machine and ATL Braves are historical, had some dominant decades, but they aren't NYY and St.L.

The Spurs and Heat are elite over the last decade, and a bit longer for the Spurs. But, neither are Bost and LAL.
This post was edited on 1/27/13 at 3:17 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 3:15 pm to
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God God you are dumb as a box of rocks! Off of the top of my head I will go with:


It took you an HOUR to come upwith this?????
Posted by oak71
Mesa, AZ
Member since Jun 2008
2580 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 3:17 pm to
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Kentucky and it's not that close. (yes, I know I'm biased).


8<11
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118895 posts
Posted on 1/27/13 at 3:19 pm to
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Give me some facts to prove this.


Not sure if serious.... The facts speak for themselves...

The Kentucky Wildcats men's basketball team is a college basketball team representing the University of Kentucky. Kentucky has both the most all-time wins (2103) and the highest all-time winning percentage in the history of college basketball (.763). Kentucky's all-time record currently stands at 2103–655. Kentucky also leads all schools in total NCAA tournament appearances with 52, is first in NCAA tournament wins with 111, and ranks second to UCLA in NCAA championships with 8. In addition to these titles, Kentucky also has won the National Invitation Tournament (NIT) in both 1946 and 1976, making them the only school to win multiple NCAA and NIT championships. The Wildcats have played in a record 52 NCAA Tournaments, in a record 157 NCAA Tournament games, have a NCAA record 39 Sweet-16 appearances, and a NCAA record 34 Elite-8 appearances. Further, Kentucky has played in 15 Final Fours (tied with Duke for 3rd place all time), and has 11 NCAA Championship Game appearances (second all time to UCLA), winning 8 NCAA Championships (second all time to UCLA). Kentucky also leads all schools with 56 20-win seasons, 13 30-win seasons, and is the only school with 5 different NCAA Championship coaches (Rupp, Hall, Pitino, Smith, Calipari).
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