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re: Good ways to end "Hack-a-Shaq"...
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:32 am to GumBro Jackson
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:32 am to GumBro Jackson
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I honestly find the end of basketball to be almost unwatchable. By far the worst ends (in general) of any of the big four sports. The other sports I'm on the edge of my seat wondering what will happen next. Basketball I'm usually just wishing the clock would hurry up and run out.
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Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:32 am to PrimeTime Money
I'm torn on this issue. A big part of me says "make your free throws and this isn't a problem." But when the hack a shaq strategy is used, it brings the game to a screeching halt and really hurts the viewing product.
I propose an off ball foul, while in the penalty should result in the offensive team getting a free throw and the ball back, and the offensive team is allowed to pick who shoots the throw. It's basically a 1 point penalty and a side out.
I propose an off ball foul, while in the penalty should result in the offensive team getting a free throw and the ball back, and the offensive team is allowed to pick who shoots the throw. It's basically a 1 point penalty and a side out.
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 9:34 am
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:33 am to Kracka
quote:Yes it is because you are fouling the guy while going for the ball.
neither is fouling guys at the end of the game who you know will make free throws just to stop the clock. Especially when you are down more than 2-3 possessions. Its fricking dumb. While we are at it, getting the ball at half court after a time out is dumb. If these guys are the best of the best, make them go full court.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:35 am to Epic Cajun
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What's your response to team intentionally making the game less entertaining. Do you agree that basketball is for entertainment? I think people who say "just make your free throws" aren't thinking big picture, they are thinking like a basketball player or coach, not like a company who sells entertainment. Can you honestly say the game would be worse if intentional fouling was taken out?
Listen, I get where you are coming from. And you may be right, I am looking at the game from a player/coach perspective. While the game is to be entertaining, that alone should not be the driving force in rule changes. In my opinion, this is only relevant because it's the playoffs, and it happened in a big game. These hack a whoever fouls are a part of strategy. While I am not a fan of slow games, and all this free throw shooting, I am not a fan of changing rules to favor specific players. I am also not a fan of referee's ignoring traveling. And you know they ignore it, or are told to ignore it to add excitement to games. I would be willing to bet, that if the game were called according to the rules in regards to traveling, you'd have more stoppages in play than when DeAndre Jordan is getting put on the line.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:36 am to Epic Cajun
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Exactly. The goal of each team is to win, but the goal of the league is to be entertaining
There are maybe 10 teams in the NBA that are NOT entertaining, should the league do something about that?
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:36 am to Prominentwon
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Because watching a dude shoot FT for an hour is a blast to watch
especially a shitty FTer.
I agree with OP.
No point in opposing team effectively fouling the other teams highest percentage FT maker.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:37 am to Kracka
quote:Oh really? Did you know that they used to have to go full court after a timeout? But the NBA changed it to get it on your side of the court.
No, it's not. But if you are going to leave that alone and claim it's perfect, then you should leave the fouls alone.
Why did they do that?
Specifically to make it more entertaining and exciting by making the possibility of game-winning shots more likely.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:37 am to Goldrush25
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It's just recently that this cheesy strategy has come into play.
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good ways to end hack-a-shaq
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:38 am to Goldrush25
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There will always be poor free throw shooters in the league.
I somewhat agree with this. But not 100%.
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It's not necessarily a reflection of work ethic of the players.
Its a 100% reflection on the work ethic of the player. Anyone who says different is delusional.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:39 am to EastNastySwag
quote:Nobody is saying they shouldn't shoot free throws during the course of the game.
These guys get paid millions and shouldn't they be honing their craft this thread is a joke. The whole premise of the game is to put a ball into the peach basket. If you can't do it, fukk off. Changing the rule because of DeAndre Jordan is pure retardation.
People complain about a coach getting his team to intentionally foul over and over again for an entire quarter.
And really, the strategy doesn't even work.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:40 am to Kracka
quote:It not entertaining.
I don't understand why they want to "fix" this strategy
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they would just practice free throws, this would not be a problem.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:40 am to PrimeTime Money
But that rule solves things league wide for each team. This is tweaking a rule because a couple players are shitty at making completely unguarded 15 footers.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:40 am to PrimeTime Money
Learn to shoot fouls and not just dunk
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:41 am to PrimeTime Money
DeAndre Jordan getting the Peyton Manning Rule Change status.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:41 am to Kracka
quote:1. They DO spend a lot of time on it. They just aren't good shooters.
This. I just really don't get why these guys just don't spend the time on it. They have 24 hr access to facilities, coaches, tons of money to spend on coaching. It's not hard to not suck at free throws.
2. It's beside the point. It's about not letting a gimmick ruin the watchability of the games.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:42 am to RTR America
Bingo.
It wouldn't be a strategy at all if teams didn't have awful foul shooters.
make. Your. FREE. throws.
It wouldn't be a strategy at all if teams didn't have awful foul shooters.
make. Your. FREE. throws.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:42 am to PrimeTime Money
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Specifically to make it more entertaining and exciting by making the possibility of game-winning shots more likely.
If these guys are the most athletic players on the planet, and the best of the best bball players, make them work for it and go full court. I am not a fan of the half court thing.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:43 am to RTR America
It's still recent in the history of the league. NBA existed for over 50 years before Hack-a-Shaq began.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:43 am to EastNastySwag
quote:This fantasy that some of you have that guys who aren't good at free throws just don't practice and if they practiced more, every player in the nba would be a viable free throw shooter is so naive. It's pretty far out there in fantasy world, fwiw.
These guys get paid millions and shouldn't they be honing their craft this thread is a joke. The whole premise of the game is to put a ball into the peach basket. If you can't do it, fukk off. Changing the rule because of DeAndre Jordan is pure retardation.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:43 am to PrimeTime Money
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People complain about a coach getting his team to intentionally foul over and over again for an entire quarter.
And really, the strategy doesn't even work.
If it doesn't work then teams will stop doing it. If it does work then teams will have to take these players out of the game.
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