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re: Good ways to end "Hack-a-Shaq"...

Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:12 am to
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:12 am to
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While we are at it, getting the ball at half court after a time out is dumb.


Yeah no thank you. It is perfect how it is.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40758 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:13 am to
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Make your damn free throws or don't play a player who can't.


could you imagine how different the lineups across the NBA would look if they took players out who aren't good free throw shooters? lol it would be full of non awesomeness.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32368 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:13 am to
If the result of an intentional foul was two shots and the ball, teams wouldn't do it. That's the point, you have to make the result something that isn't desirable.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40758 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:13 am to
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Yeah no thank you. It is perfect how it is.


No, it's not. But if you are going to leave that alone and claim it's perfect, then you should leave the fouls alone.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22643 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:15 am to
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Make your damn free throws or don't play a player who can't.




Agreed. I think it's tough to "fix" this.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:16 am to
I literally said they should like 2 posts before that. You even quoted it.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40758 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:17 am to
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That's the point, you have to make the result something that isn't desirable.


For the supporters of a rule change, like you. Why aren't you suggesting that players just start making their free throws? Isn't that desirable? This is just a reflection of the way society is. You aren't making the player take any responsibility for his inability to make free throws. Just fine another way to get around it. Its dumb. JUST MAKE YOUR DAMN FREE THROWS. No one is guarding you.
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 9:19 am
Posted by EastNastySwag
Member since Dec 2014
5978 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:17 am to
These guys get paid millions and shouldn't they be honing their craft this thread is a joke. The whole premise of the game is to put a ball into the peach basket. If you can't do it, fukk off. Changing the rule because of DeAndre Jordan is pure retardation.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:18 am to
The idea of changing the rules because certain players can't make free throws is just lazy imo.

The Kings tried it on Tony Allen earlier this season. He made them, they stopped trying it, and no one else has tried it since then.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22643 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:19 am to
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If the result of an intentional foul was two shots and the ball, teams wouldn't do it. That's the point, you have to make the result something that isn't desirable.


This would kill excitement at the end of games.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40758 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:21 am to
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These guys get paid millions and shouldn't they be honing their craft this thread is a joke.


This. I just really don't get why these guys just don't spend the time on it. They have 24 hr access to facilities, coaches, tons of money to spend on coaching. It's not hard to not suck at free throws.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32368 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:23 am to
I also think you responded to the wrong person earlier, I never said anything about giving points to a team without scoring, I think that's dumb.

I think that players should make free throws, but that isn't really logical. You're obviously going always have some guys who just aren't good shooters.

What's your response to team intentionally making the game less entertaining. Do you agree that basketball is for entertainment? I think people who say "just make your free throws" aren't thinking big picture, they are thinking like a basketball player or coach, not like a company who sells entertainment. Can you honestly say the game would be worse if intentional fouling was taken out?

ETA: intentional off ball fouls are what I'm referring to.

This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 9:29 am
Posted by GumBro Jackson
Raleigh
Member since Mar 2011
3112 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:24 am to
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That is the worst possible thing anyone could implement. Awarding teams points for not even putting the ball in the basket is about as retarded as it gets.


I agree it isn't ideal, but I think something should be done. The end of basketball games is IMO the worst part of the game. It should be the most exciting. It really kills casual interest in the sport. Someone else suggested getting a free throw or two and getting the ball back. I'd also be in favor of that. Just something to reduce the number of fouls. I honestly find the end of basketball to be almost unwatchable. By far the worst ends (in general) of any of the big four sports. The other sports I'm on the edge of my seat wondering what will happen next. Basketball I'm usually just wishing the clock would hurry up and run out.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22643 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:25 am to
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Can you honestly say the game would be worse if intentional fouling was taken out?



Yes, how many games come down to a last shot because of a missed free throw? I don't think there should be a rule change because there are a few outliers that are so bad at shooting FTs that teams take advantage of them.
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 9:26 am
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40758 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:26 am to
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I also think you responded to the wrong person earlier,


Sorry, I misred it as pts and not what it said fts.
Posted by pjnchamps
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
1746 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:28 am to
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Two free throws from anyone on the fouled team plus possession


Exactly it's the refs fault this has gotten so big. They know these fouls are intentionally so how about calling them intentional fouls 2 FTs and possession problem solved
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32368 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:28 am to
I'm referring to intentional off ball fouls, I should have clarified.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:29 am to
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You're obviously going always have some guys who just aren't good shooters.


It isn't asking too much for a guy to be respectable enough to remove the option of hacking them every time down the court.

No one is saying every player should be a 90% free throw shooter.

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Can you honestly say the game would be worse if intentional fouling was taken out?


Changing the rules for the sake of a few players is just dumb.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:30 am to
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For the supporters of a rule change, like you. Why aren't you suggesting that players just start making their free throws? Isn't that desirable?


There will always be poor free throw shooters in the league. It's not necessarily a reflection of work ethic of the players.

And this is not something that just started. There have always been poor free throw shooters. It's just recently that this cheesy strategy has come into play.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:30 am to
of course rocketfan is skeert
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