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re: Golf ball in a Divot
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:47 am to BallChamp00
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:47 am to BallChamp00
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I want to post a poster up or easel with the names of of the players teeing off that morning wave. They have to turn their card after their round under the allotted time given. If they don't they can not have that tee time next weekend. They will drop 2 hours in tee times. If it is a foursome they can drop to a three some and remain at their normal time. All numbers are posted so everyone will see.
My club did this last month without the threat of penalizing the slow groups. It was done to basically find out why things took longer than expected, and it showed who the slowest groups were to everyone. Our course is expected to play at a 3:50 pace of play, and the slowest groups were 4:05 or so. Slow, but not awful. I can tell you that the slow groups were some very longstanding members, some of whom are in their 70s; and there is no way they'd get their tee times taken away from them. Your idea is good in theory, but probably not practical in a lot of private country club settings.
One problem I see is that what everyone thinks is slow, might not be actually slow. Every course should have a pace of play which gives an allotted time to finish (i.e. 3:50 or 4:00 or even 4:10 depending on the course, it's difficulty and other factors). Just because the group you're in can play in 3:30 doesn't mean the group in front of you that plays in 3:45 is slow, they're just not as fast as you. That's where allowing faster groups to play through should come in; however, this rarely happens unless you have a twosome behind a foursome or similar situation.
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 1:38 pm to gamecocks22
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The one thing that I will take a little time to do is putt. From tee to green I play as fast as anyone, hell I don't even take practice swings. Taking a few seconds to read my putt makes a huge difference in my score. I don't take 5 minutes and walk around and look at it from each side, but I will squat down behind it and look at it for 5 or 10 seconds. I try and do this while others are putting so I will be ready when it is my turn, but it helps me a lot and I will make a lot more putts if I take a few seconds to read it instead of just going straight to standing over the ball.
0 issue with this. I have a line I draw on my ball and I'll get down to line it up and place it on the line I see.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 1:46 pm to Front9Bandit
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weekend golfers should never hit out of a divot (i certainly don't) ... if i'm in a footprint in the bunker, i move the ball ..
Really? Wow
really ... tournament golf where the players are all aware of the need/requirement to rake the bunkers is a bit different than joe blow amateur out for a saturday stroll who doesn't give a shiite about the bunker after he's hit out of it ... if i were a member at oakmont, i wouldn't have that problem ...
Posted on 8/16/16 at 1:52 pm to bayouman
I shall answer the OP as it was stated.
People in Scotland thought it would be a fun thing in a sadistic moralistic way.
They respect discipline, and loathe pussification. They were already loathing pussification in 1600.
Play it as it lies. DEAL WITH IT is another way of saying it.
You know how the Republican party has been called the Daddy party and the Democrats are the mommy party? Golf was made up by Daddys.
Notice that no women members were permitted at Augusta until they allowed the torturer black woman football fan. She gave them some big Daddy props. Imagine, deciding who to torture and what kinds of torture to use.
She didn't even think waterboarding was torture. That's some daddy shite right there.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:59 pm to medtiger
Are you in Houston? I may have spoken to your pro.
I mean 10 minutes isn't a big deal.
I mean 10 minutes isn't a big deal.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 7:39 pm to medtiger
That's a sticky wicket. That'll be you one day doc. 
You're in an episode of curb your enthusiasm. lmao
You're in an episode of curb your enthusiasm. lmao
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:01 am to medtiger
when I was a teenager, everyone else was slow.
my group of teenagers practically ran the course.
my mom, then in her late 30's, had a hard time with my preferred pace.
I was a terrible golfer.
later when I married, I played at the pace of my wife - who was a worse golfer by far, and took a long time because she did not hit far and had no mastery of any clubs, and I played much much better than I had before I played with her. the whole thing was more relaxed.
I find it aggravating when faster groups hit into my group. its dangerous.
I never ever did that.
my group of teenagers practically ran the course.
my mom, then in her late 30's, had a hard time with my preferred pace.
I was a terrible golfer.
later when I married, I played at the pace of my wife - who was a worse golfer by far, and took a long time because she did not hit far and had no mastery of any clubs, and I played much much better than I had before I played with her. the whole thing was more relaxed.
I find it aggravating when faster groups hit into my group. its dangerous.
I never ever did that.
Posted on 8/17/16 at 12:10 pm to CelticDog
OK, the whole notion that this will slow play is a joke. PGA players currently look at the ball for a minute wondering why the hell their luck is so bad before hitting a shot.
Just let them place the ball within a 6-12 inch area of the divot no closer to the hole. Boom...done. Swing away. Define the area as the fairway just as they do to track driving stats.
For those of you that want to appreciate the old Scottish bastards and their rules....remember that the first guy to wipe his arse with a corn husk was considered a genius. We've moved on.
Just let them place the ball within a 6-12 inch area of the divot no closer to the hole. Boom...done. Swing away. Define the area as the fairway just as they do to track driving stats.
For those of you that want to appreciate the old Scottish bastards and their rules....remember that the first guy to wipe his arse with a corn husk was considered a genius. We've moved on.
Posted on 8/17/16 at 3:06 pm to BallChamp00
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Are you in Houston?
No.
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10 minutes isn't a big deal.
Right. I think it was done in orders to show everyone that what they considered slow and what actually is slow are two different things.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 12:34 am to BBATiger
It will 100% slow play. They have to call over the other player and probably most of the time have to call over an official. They will take advantage of this to clean their ball.
Posted on 8/19/16 at 7:28 am to BallChamp00
I don't play sanctioned events.
I enjoy getting outside with my dad and brother.
I watched a 95year old man at the same course we were playing, place his ball on a tee for all his shots. It did not bother me to see him do it. He was with his 70 year old son enjoying the day.
The courses I play are not in the us open rota, and maintenance is an issue.
Golf is a dying game. I use to play more, but family, career, etc, are priorities right now.
I will not hit off of roots or rocks. I do not maintain a handicap. I do not gamble.
If you want to play it down, more power to you. I will continue to do whatever I see fit to do on the golf course.
I enjoy getting outside with my dad and brother.
I watched a 95year old man at the same course we were playing, place his ball on a tee for all his shots. It did not bother me to see him do it. He was with his 70 year old son enjoying the day.
The courses I play are not in the us open rota, and maintenance is an issue.
Golf is a dying game. I use to play more, but family, career, etc, are priorities right now.
I will not hit off of roots or rocks. I do not maintain a handicap. I do not gamble.
If you want to play it down, more power to you. I will continue to do whatever I see fit to do on the golf course.
Posted on 8/19/16 at 9:46 am to makersmark1
quote:No problem, but let me ask you this: "do you enjoy the game more when you cheat and know you cheat, or do you enjoy the game more when you don't cheat and actually score well straight up? Just asking. I personally don't hit off rocks or roots, but I also will take the penalty for dropping and count that in my score.
If you want to play it down, more power to you. I will continue to do whatever I see fit to do on the golf course.
You probably are one of those guys that will walk up to a putt you left just short of the hole and then lip out the short putt and say to your buddy, "That doesn't count. I was just fricking around. It would have gone in if I was really trying."
Posted on 8/19/16 at 10:41 am to HubbaBubba
sounds like he's a guy not concerned with his score but more just getting out of the house and enjoying a round of golf with family. in his post he literally says he doesn't play competitive golf, keep a handicap, or gamble. at the end of the day, recreational golf is about having fun. if his style of play is enjoyable for himself and the others in his group, i fail to see how much it really matters how he keeps score. i personally follow the rules because i am doing that for myself, but i'm also not going to be a dick to golfers in my group who don't play very much, aren't all that good, and are just out there to have a good time. And as to not making people putt everything out, professional golfers in match play tournaments concede short putts all the time. i have no problem conceding "gimmie" putts for people in a casual round of golf. if for nothing less, it speeds up the pace of play.
This post was edited on 8/19/16 at 10:45 am
Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:44 am to HubbaBubba
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If you want to play it down, more power to you. I will continue to do whatever I see fit to do on the golf course.
No problem, but let me ask you this: "do you enjoy the game more when you cheat and know you cheat, or do you enjoy the game more when you don't cheat and actually score well straight up? Just asking. I personally don't hit off rocks or roots, but I also will take the penalty for dropping and count that in my score.
You probably are one of those guys that will walk up to a putt you left just short of the hole and then lip out the short putt and say to your buddy, "That doesn't count. I was just fricking around. It would have gone in if I was really trying."
Posted on 8/19/16 at 3:06 pm to CelticDog
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when I was a teenager, everyone else was slow.
True story. Me and my partner were playing Northwood in Shreveport. After two holes a marshall came up and said 'There is a regular foursome behind you that plays every morning. They are the fastest golfers in the world. Please let them play through."
We obliged and watched. It was amazing. Four guys each in his own cart driving as fast as possible, jogging to their ball and hitting immediately regardless of who was 'away' and then jogging back to cart and speeding away. They must have played 18 in less than an hour.
Posted on 8/19/16 at 4:17 pm to makersmark1
Golf is fine.
Not goin anywhere. It's actually better when every flat bill and Tiger fan decides to stay home and watch wrestling, or whatever the hell it is they do.
Not goin anywhere. It's actually better when every flat bill and Tiger fan decides to stay home and watch wrestling, or whatever the hell it is they do.
Posted on 8/19/16 at 6:16 pm to BBATiger
So you think David toms birdie on 18 at the 2011 players is the greatest birdie in the history of golf?
Posted on 8/19/16 at 9:54 pm to HubbaBubba
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You probably are one of those guys that will walk up to a putt you left just short of the hole and then lip out the short putt and say to your buddy, "That doesn't count. I was just fricking around. It would have gone in if I was really trying."
^^this does not happen because the people I go to the golf course with knock the ball back to me before I can even get up there.
Like I said before, I do not really play "golf". I go to the course with people I enjoy being around and enjoy being together outside. It is recreation- not work or sport.
I do not plan to ever play on tour or even in a club event. I am not asking anyone to change their way of doing things at the golf course.
This post was edited on 8/19/16 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 8/19/16 at 10:20 pm to makersmark1
So, I'm not really getting the point of you commenting in this thread. It's the equivalent of saying you enjoy playing tennis, but aren't really competitive, so you and your playing partner just go hit the ball back and forth for an hour or whatever and don't really care if shots are in or out in a discussion about whether the tennis court should be widened. Obviously if you don't take the game seriously and aren't playing competitively, no one cares if you move your ball from a divot. It's pretty well understood that the premise of this thread has to do with competitive golf.
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