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Final Spinoff: CFB "How the Hell Are They That Good?" Thread
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:24 pm
5 teams where it doesn't seem to make sense that they should win this much.
To begin:
1. Missouri: They were an average Big 12 school. Literally every single person on Earth who is not a Missouri fan predicted disaster when they joined the SEC, and now they've reached 2 SECCGs in a row.
2. Wisconsin: They were crap before Barry Alvarez got there. Now they still consistently compete with the Ohio States, Michigans, Penn States, Michigan States of the world and Alvarez has been gone for a while.
3. Kansas State: Bill Snyder has to be one of the greatest coaches ever. And they already went to crap the first time he retired. It'll be interesting to see if it happens again.
4. Cincinnati: They were pitiful until the early 90s. Then they hit the coaching jackpot (Dantonio, Chip Kelly, Butch Jones in a row) and became a BCS team. I was stunned that they pulled Tuberville from Texas Tech.
5. Northwestern: One bowl game before 1995. 10 Bowl games since. They went from the worst program in college football to an average B1G team, sometimes better.
To begin:
1. Missouri: They were an average Big 12 school. Literally every single person on Earth who is not a Missouri fan predicted disaster when they joined the SEC, and now they've reached 2 SECCGs in a row.
2. Wisconsin: They were crap before Barry Alvarez got there. Now they still consistently compete with the Ohio States, Michigans, Penn States, Michigan States of the world and Alvarez has been gone for a while.
3. Kansas State: Bill Snyder has to be one of the greatest coaches ever. And they already went to crap the first time he retired. It'll be interesting to see if it happens again.
4. Cincinnati: They were pitiful until the early 90s. Then they hit the coaching jackpot (Dantonio, Chip Kelly, Butch Jones in a row) and became a BCS team. I was stunned that they pulled Tuberville from Texas Tech.
5. Northwestern: One bowl game before 1995. 10 Bowl games since. They went from the worst program in college football to an average B1G team, sometimes better.
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Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:27 pm to lsutigers1992
No Baylor?? They were doormats of the Southwest.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:30 pm to EastNastySwag
They were 6 on my list. But you are dealing with Texas. I don't know how they got worse than Iowa State and Kansas but they did.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:31 pm to EastNastySwag
This list begins and ends with Boise State.
shite conference. shite recruiting area. Far, far away from any meaningful concentrations of football talent (or people in general).
It is unreal what they've been able to do with that program.
shite conference. shite recruiting area. Far, far away from any meaningful concentrations of football talent (or people in general).
It is unreal what they've been able to do with that program.
This post was edited on 4/10/15 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:32 pm to lsutigers1992
TCU & Baylor - great coaching combined with Texas in a funk
Oregon - without Phil Knight they are a 7-9 win/year program
Boise State - They should be absolute garbage with an Idaho recruiting base
Oregon - without Phil Knight they are a 7-9 win/year program
Boise State - They should be absolute garbage with an Idaho recruiting base
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:32 pm to lsutigers1992
Baylor & TCU - small private religious schools that are currently head and shoulders above the 2 flagship schools
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:32 pm to lsutigers1992
I may be biased b/c I'm a fan, but I'll to say WVU. They have a very good history for being a poor state with zero in state talent to recruit from.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:34 pm to Sevendust912
They can pull talent out of PA though, especially being close to Pittsburgh.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:35 pm to Korin
And their rise corresponded with Pitt's decline
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:35 pm to Sevendust912
quote:
I may be biased b/c I'm a fan, but I'll to say WVU. They have a very good history for being a poor state with zero in state talent to recruit from.
Somewhat true, but they're a short drive from two of the premier historical recruiting areas in the country.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:36 pm to lsutigers1992
Oregon, Baylor, tcu
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:36 pm to AbuTheMonkey
They could've easily won 3 titles since the late 80s.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:36 pm to Korin
quote:
They can pull talent out of PA though, especially being close to Pittsburgh.
they recruit OH, PA, and MD but always get the leftovers from OSU, Penn State, Mich, ND, and even Pitt. They actually recruit the best in Florida believe it or not.
They have been fortunate to have great coaches. Bowden, Nehlen, Rodriguez, not a bad lineup
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:37 pm to lsutigers1992
quote:Are they? I don't even notice them really.
Missouri
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:37 pm to AbuTheMonkey
In a way Boise State doesn't surprise me because they're competing with the San Jose States and Louisiana Techs of the world who have poor facilities and don't have a pot to pee in. Any school that went into that level with a balls-out desire to win was going to win.
What surprises me is that they win 11 or more games EVERY SINGLE YEAR. That's freaking amazing.
What surprises me is that they win 11 or more games EVERY SINGLE YEAR. That's freaking amazing.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:40 pm to lsutigers1992
They have a national brand, like a mid-major version of Oregon.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:42 pm to AbuTheMonkey
quote:
shite conference. shite recruiting area. Far, far away from any meaningful concentrations of football talent (or people in general).
quote:
This list begins and ends with Boise State.
shite conference. shite recruiting area. Far, far away from any meaningful concentrations of football talent (or people in general).
It is unreal what they've been able to do with that program.
For years, they've been kings of talent evaluating.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:42 pm to lsutigers1992
As for the poster that mentioned K State, they are fortunate to have a once in a lifetime type coach.
The chances of hitting on a hire like that are next to nothing, and I expect them to return to being a doormat once he retires again.
The chances of hitting on a hire like that are next to nothing, and I expect them to return to being a doormat once he retires again.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:43 pm to lsutigers1992
i will have to say Vandy... they win an SEC game or two every year when they really shouldn't
Posted on 4/10/15 at 4:44 pm to lsutigers1992
Answer to all 5 = Coaching and great program building
Which is why the statement made in the other thread that "if they haven't made it yet, they aren't making it" is such a bullshite statement. A good coach can build a program to a respectable level and you can build from there
Which is why the statement made in the other thread that "if they haven't made it yet, they aren't making it" is such a bullshite statement. A good coach can build a program to a respectable level and you can build from there
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