The thing I often wonder is how different this team would look had Vick not fought dogs.
Probably a lot worse. If he had never gotten involved in that, or had just never gotten caught, he would still be the last to show up to practice and the first to leave, he would still be flipping off the fans when they boo him for playing like shit, etc. Plus he just isn't that good of an NFL QB. He turns it over too much and he isn't durable. Ryan is pretty safe with the ball and rarely gets hurt despite playing behind a crap O-line.