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Explain what's wrong with men's CBB?
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:43 am
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:43 am
Admittedly I don't keep up with basketball nearly as close as football, but lately everyone has been going off on how the men's game has declined and proposing eleventy different rule changes (30 second shot clock, deeper 3 pt line, 14 sec shot clock on offensive rebounds, etc), but why. Is it scoring? Lack of highlight plays?
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:44 am to fillmoregandt
30 seconds is still too long for a shotclock.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:48 am to The Egg
Yes the shot clock and the fact there is no Defensive 3-second violation makes for a slow, grind it out type of game.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:48 am to fillmoregandt
The last 2 minutes of the game take as long as the first 26 minutes of the game. That's a problem. They need to limit the number of timeouts teams can take in the last 2 minutes of the game. Also, I think a shorter shot clock would help.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:51 am to fillmoregandt
AAU and 1 and done rule.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:55 am to DBeaux225
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AAU and 1 and done rule.
This ^^^^^^^^
And it's glorified yard ball with unis and a shot clock.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:00 pm to fillmoregandt
It's just the flavor of the month for things to whine about
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:01 pm to kingbob
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he last 2 minutes of the game take as long as the first 26 minutes of the game. That's a problem. They need to limit the number of timeouts teams can take in the last 2 minutes of the game
Happens in the NBA too, they just don't take nearly as many commercial breaks so it doesn't slow down as much. Blame the networks for that shite.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:03 pm to fillmoregandt
8 seconds to half court and a 24 second shot clock.
10 and 30 for high school.
Remove the "Restricted Area" arc and the Defensive 3 seconds rule.
8 second reset of shot clock on offensive rebounds.
Move 3 point arc to 25 feet
22 feet for high school.
10 and 30 for high school.
Remove the "Restricted Area" arc and the Defensive 3 seconds rule.
8 second reset of shot clock on offensive rebounds.
Move 3 point arc to 25 feet
22 feet for high school.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:09 pm to fillmoregandt
72 second shot clock
45 timeouts for coaches
one and done rule
45 timeouts for coaches
one and done rule
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:10 pm to The Egg
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30 seconds is still too long for a shotclock.
Hey now, Kentucky had 3 shot clock violations with a 35 second shot clock
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:13 pm to bamarep
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And it's glorified yard ball with unis and a shot clock.
Because the two teams playing in the final just roll the ball out there. No team concept or coaching. Since 2010 Kentucky is the only team built around the "1 and done" concept to win a title. That makes it an outlier, not a trend. If Duke wins this year, that will make it 2.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:15 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Mandatory inflexible TV time outs. Too many coaches piggy-back their time outs to create one super-long time out.
For example, there's a mandatory TV timeout at the first stoppage after 16, 12, 8 and 4 minutes. If a team is on a run at 15:55, the other coach calls time out and gets a 4 minute break. Then you get a foul on the in bounds pass or it gets tipped out of bounds. Then you get ANOTHER 4 minute break because TV still gets their time out no matter what.
It's just like commercial breaks after touchbacks in the NFL. Teams get punished and lose all momentum because their offense was too efficient. There is no rhythm and continuity and it's just a game of alternating runs.
For example, there's a mandatory TV timeout at the first stoppage after 16, 12, 8 and 4 minutes. If a team is on a run at 15:55, the other coach calls time out and gets a 4 minute break. Then you get a foul on the in bounds pass or it gets tipped out of bounds. Then you get ANOTHER 4 minute break because TV still gets their time out no matter what.
It's just like commercial breaks after touchbacks in the NFL. Teams get punished and lose all momentum because their offense was too efficient. There is no rhythm and continuity and it's just a game of alternating runs.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:16 pm to lsutigers1992
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Mandatory inflexible TV time outs. Too many coaches piggy-back their time outs to create one super-long time out.
This is a huge issue, but I don't see it changing.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:18 pm to fillmoregandt
What's wrong with it is too many people want to change the whole damn game. Get rid of the one and done rule and that fixes a lot of issued by itself. Make them stay at least 3 like footbal. Problem solved.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:19 pm to fillmoregandt
AAU coaches
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:24 pm to More beer please
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Get rid of the one and done rule and that fixes a lot of issued by itself.
I don't consider the one and done players even in the top 10 of issues with college basketball.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:25 pm to stlslick
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:28 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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This is a huge issue, but I don't see it changing.
I've actually seen games where there is no clock stoppage for 4 minutes and then TV took back to back TV time outs to catch up on the break they missed. You get 4 minutes of clean, efficient basketball and then the network makes them sit for 10 minutes.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:30 pm to More beer please
This is true. The 1 and done is the biggest problem. There were SO many great players in the 80s and 90s that stayed multiple years. Just think of some of the SEC players that played multiple years. Shaq, Chris Jackson, Robert Horry, Latrell Sprewell, Antonio McDyess, Derrick McKey, Charles Barkley, Chuck Person, Dominique Wilkins, Todd Day, Eric Dampier, Allen Houston, Jamal Mashburn, Rex Chapman, etc, etc, etc.
I would like to see the 30 second shot clock put in too. The NIT games this year were higher scoring and a bit more entertaining than usual.
I would like to see the 30 second shot clock put in too. The NIT games this year were higher scoring and a bit more entertaining than usual.
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