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re: Dodgers or Cardinals, who is the team to beat in the NL
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:15 pm to UltimateHog
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:15 pm to UltimateHog
3.4 is not 3.52
Baseball reference hasn't updated from his start today. So it's actually 3.52, which is, once again, comparable to Alex wood
Baseball reference hasn't updated from his start today. So it's actually 3.52, which is, once again, comparable to Alex wood
This post was edited on 8/2/15 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:16 pm to UltimateHog
quote:there is the homer aspect again...
granted not quite as good a pitcher overall as Jaime I would argue as well.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:17 pm to tduecen
quote:
there is the homer aspect again...
That's a shiny hook, I know you aren't that dumb so I will not bite.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:17 pm to WestCoastAg
Idk what that means, but Leake's current ERA is lower than Wood's.
Again, 3.52 > 3.54
Again, 3.52 > 3.54
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:18 pm to UltimateHog
I was looking before the start today. Point remains. 70 point BABIP gap, basically same ERA.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:19 pm to UltimateHog
I never said the ERA was better. I said it was comparable. Because before today, alexs was slightly better, now Mikes is slightly better. That's what we call comparable
This post was edited on 8/2/15 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:21 pm to UltimateHog
Latos has 400 more innings career than Garcia, has pitched as a #1 longer, has a similar career ERA, and prior to this year I believe it was lower. Latos has been the superior pitcher throughout his career. Garcia is also 2 years older than Latos....
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:22 pm to WestCoastAg
Sure, until you factor in Leake pitched in the 2nd highest Park Factor in the Majors while Wood pitched Turner Field middle of the pack with quite a large gap between them.
Then it's not so close.
Wood's 1.41 WHIP at GAB would have been far more disastrous.
Leake will have a better final 2 months than Wood.
You'll see in time.
Then it's not so close.
Wood's 1.41 WHIP at GAB would have been far more disastrous.
Leake will have a better final 2 months than Wood.
You'll see in time.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:23 pm to tduecen
Wtf does any of that have to do with this year?
Post stats on washed up pitcher from years ago.
I understand why you defect away from your OP in this situation, since as I said, Garcia is a much much better pitcher.
Defect away.
quote:
Forget the past, it does not matter in the present....
Post stats on washed up pitcher from years ago.
I understand why you defect away from your OP in this situation, since as I said, Garcia is a much much better pitcher.
Defect away.
This post was edited on 8/2/15 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:27 pm to UltimateHog
I will become a Cardinals fan if Garcia is better from today on out vs Latos. If Latos is better you have to become a Dodgers fan. All this means is picking avatar/signature to represent each team.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:32 pm to UltimateHog
quote:and it'd awesome that we have things like adjusted ERA that factor that in and that Mike and Alex are comparable in those stats once again. Mikes ERA+ was 108 and Alexs was 104 before today
Sure, until you factor in Leake pitched in the 2nd highest Park Factor in the Majors while Wood pitched Turner Field middle of the pack with quite a large gap between them.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:32 pm to tduecen
Just to be clear
Jaime Garcia: 1.98 ERA, 3.24 FIP, 3.12 xFIP, .227 BABIP
Mat Latos: 4.29 ERA, 3.35 FIP, 3.64 xFIP, .289 BABIP
Dear god no, there is nothing good in that for me or Cardinal Nation. How about you become a Rays fan instead? Or for non division purposes, a Padres fan? Those would be much funner.
I feel like that would be taking candy from a kid easy, I'd rather stick with Leake over Wood final 2 months, you att least have a shot there.
Jaime Garcia: 1.98 ERA, 3.24 FIP, 3.12 xFIP, .227 BABIP
Mat Latos: 4.29 ERA, 3.35 FIP, 3.64 xFIP, .289 BABIP
quote:
I will become a Cardinals fan
Dear god no, there is nothing good in that for me or Cardinal Nation. How about you become a Rays fan instead? Or for non division purposes, a Padres fan? Those would be much funner.
I feel like that would be taking candy from a kid easy, I'd rather stick with Leake over Wood final 2 months, you att least have a shot there.
This post was edited on 8/2/15 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:41 pm to WestCoastAg
And just to go back to the whole Dodgers or giants winning the division thing, baseball prospectus puts our odds at winning the division at 80%, fangraphs puts it at 90%
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:44 pm to WestCoastAg
and Vegas gave you the best odds to win the series last year
Giants are still 2.5 back
Giants are still 2.5 back
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:46 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:ok? My point is not about where the Giants are now, it's where we will be in october, and basically every single projection agrees with me
Giants are still 2.5 back
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:54 pm to WestCoastAg
Of course they are projected to win. They are paper champions
They won 90+ games last year and were projected to win it all
Giants are still 2.5 back. Go win something
They won 90+ games last year and were projected to win it all
Giants are still 2.5 back. Go win something
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:55 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:you keep repeating this like it actually means something
Giants are still 2.5 back.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:57 pm to hendersonshands
quote:some interesting quotes from him today. Basically he says it's his swan song, he's not getting surgery, he's wants to get the pain to a manageable level and go out pitching -- even at a painful, diminished capacity.
Pirates is correct but Burnett sounds done
i certainly admire the competitor in him, i just hope in practice he can be effective w/ whatever his injury is. it sounds like he's been playing through it for quite a while now.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:05 pm to WestCoastAg
The fact that the giants are currently, right now, 2.5 GB means a lot more to me than what you think might happen in the current months. At least to any rational person who isn't a homer
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