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Do you think Pete Rose has suffered enough for his sins and should be let back i
Posted on 4/23/13 at 7:53 am
Posted on 4/23/13 at 7:53 am
Into baseball? I say yes, but probably only because I lived through the steroids era, and feel like that's a worse sin.
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Posted on 4/23/13 at 7:54 am to baybeefeetz
No.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 7:55 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Perhaps I'm forgetting how long he lied about it.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 7:55 am to baybeefeetz
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because I lived through the steroids era, and feel like that's a worse sin.
Steroids are not worse than you betting on games you can effect a change upon.
Yes he should be let back in. ONLY for the purposes of HOF. Should still be banned from having a manager or ANY position on a staff.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:01 am to LSU alum wannabe
I could go with the opposite. He brought shame so far, so no HOF. However, he can try to redeem himself through his actions now, which can be monitored.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:01 am to LSU alum wannabe
For his play on the field and the amount of hits he had he should be in the HOF. 4000 hits is unheard of.
For his gambling, there is no place in any sport for that and the way he handled it should keep him banned for life even though I don't think he did anything with the Reds to affect the outcome. I think he just liked betting period and was addicted to gambling. The perception though as a manager is too much to ever let him back into MLB for any purpose.
For his gambling, there is no place in any sport for that and the way he handled it should keep him banned for life even though I don't think he did anything with the Reds to affect the outcome. I think he just liked betting period and was addicted to gambling. The perception though as a manager is too much to ever let him back into MLB for any purpose.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:03 am to nicholastiger
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4000 hits is unheard of.
Ty Cobb says hi
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:04 am to baybeefeetz
I hope he gets in the HOF posthumously.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:04 am to baybeefeetz
Support 
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:13 am to baybeefeetz
He should be in the HOF
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:18 am to josh336
He broke the rules with full knowledge of the consequences. He accepted a lifetime ban without coercion. He wasn't tricked.
Gambling is the central sin of sports. If games are not on the level, with both teams trying their hardest to win, then we have pro wrestling. It was a far worse sin, and it was done with full knowledge of the rules and the penalties for breaking them.
Seriously, screw that guy.
Gambling is the central sin of sports. If games are not on the level, with both teams trying their hardest to win, then we have pro wrestling. It was a far worse sin, and it was done with full knowledge of the rules and the penalties for breaking them.
Seriously, screw that guy.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:19 am to baybeefeetz
yes.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:23 am to Baloo
Still think he should be in the hall for his on field accomplishments
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:23 am to Baloo
I think there are things far worse than betting on games, like throwing games.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:28 am to baybeefeetz
Personally, I believe he should bet readmitted to the game, but like a poster said, only for HOF consideration. MLB and the HOF use his memorabilia in displays, his likeness on the logo, and still tout him as the best hitter to play. Gambling is about as bad as it gets, but at least let the man into the Hall
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:28 am to josh336
No. I have no idea why anyone has any sympathy for a guy who not only bet on baseball and the success or failure of his own players whom he could impact, but who still couldn't come to terms with admitting that what he did was wrong for over a decade.
Since then, he has been wiggling back and forth about how much he believed in his admission, the extent of his betting behavior, and whether or not the admission was just for the sake of getting back into the game.
Its sad to see Rose now; he had every opportunity to show some sense of contrition for his actions, but he has refused responsibility at every turn, admitted and recanted and readmitted and half recanted at each turn, and has generally demonstrated why he isn't trustworthy.
A great baseball player who unfortunately thought of himself as bigger than the game. He's not, and the game should never let him back into the club.
Since then, he has been wiggling back and forth about how much he believed in his admission, the extent of his betting behavior, and whether or not the admission was just for the sake of getting back into the game.
Its sad to see Rose now; he had every opportunity to show some sense of contrition for his actions, but he has refused responsibility at every turn, admitted and recanted and readmitted and half recanted at each turn, and has generally demonstrated why he isn't trustworthy.
A great baseball player who unfortunately thought of himself as bigger than the game. He's not, and the game should never let him back into the club.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:29 am to Cajun Revolution
I think manipulation of outcomes should be the focus. Sure the temptation is there, but if it can't be shown that he changed outcomes, I think that mitigates to a degree.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:33 am to baybeefeetz
after he dies
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:36 am to baybeefeetz
He should be in the Hall of Fame.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:37 am to nicholastiger
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For his play on the field and the amount of hits he had he should be in the HOF. 4000 hits is unheard of.
For his gambling, there is no place in any sport for that and the way he handled it should keep him banned for life even though I don't think he did anything with the Reds to affect the outcome. I think he just liked betting period and was addicted to gambling. The perception though as a manager is too much to ever let him back into MLB for any purpose.
Nice post. If it was only his playing ability, he would have been the highest percentage first ballot inductee in baseball history.
BUT, his lying about his gambling on baseball was his biggest downfall. Had he come clean and admitted to what everyone knew was true, he would be a HOF'er now. But because he continued to lie, he's not.
And to answer the question, no.
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