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re: Discuss: IS Jameis Winston another JaMarcus Russell??
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:11 pm to ATLTiger
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:11 pm to ATLTiger
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this def sounds like a lazy comparison. Jamarcus really didn't light up a room that I remember. he had somewhat of a reserved personality and would crack this little smile at times, but not too much. you might not know he's in the room if for no other reason than he's a big dude.
Jameis on the other hand is a lot more outgoing and more of a "you hear him before you see him" type. I almost agree with one of the scouts about him being somewhat of a salesman.
Yep, JR was shy and didn't want the spotlight on him. One of his biggest flaws since he's a QB
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:12 pm to Cole Beer
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"Lack of focus by JaMarcus is what I see in Winston," the personnel man said. "They're physically talented, but during the course of a game they kind of lose their focus and just put the ball up for grabs
Some would argue that the multitude of comeback wins by Jameis this past season shows that he has great focus.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:13 pm to boom roasted
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Just going off memory, it didn't seem like they asked Jamarcus to do as much as Jameis.
Your memory is wrong. Jamarcus ran Jimbo's system at LSU.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:13 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:See the edit. 120 more pass attempts.
Your memory is wrong. Jamarcus ran Jimbo's system at LSU.
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:14 pm to SabiDojo
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Some would argue that the multitude of comeback wins by Jameis this past season shows that he has great focus.
Others would argue that he wouldn't be down to weaker competition later in games if he was fully focused for the other 3 quarters of the game
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:14 pm to SabiDojo
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Some would argue that the multitude of comeback wins by Jameis this past season shows that he has great focus.
And Jamarcus was very efficient as our QB in 2006. He was very damn good at LSU and not just because he was talented.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:16 pm to boom roasted
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See the edit. 120 more pass attempts.
Probably because he was down every second half the entire year.
They ran the same system. They had similar check downs, reads, etc. and were given similar responsibilities going into games.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:16 pm to boom roasted
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See the edit. 120 more pass attempts.
It is a completely different game. JR would bring 3+ plays to the LOS with him at a time and was free to call his own plays and audible.
Jimbo still speaks very highly of college Jamarcus
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“I never knew that guy,” Fisher said on ESPN 760, talking about the lazy player Russell has become. “His work ethic for us — everything I ever asked him to do, he did. He was smart, he carried three and four play packages at the line of scrimmage.”
Fisher, like others, pointed to the passing of Russell’s mentor and Uncle Ray as a possible obstacle Russell struggled to get over.
“He is very talented and he is very intelligent,” Fisher said. “Intelligence isn’t an issue with him.”
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:17 pm to TigerBait1127
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JR would bring 5+ plays to the LOS with him at a time and was free to call his own plays and audible.
Jimbo still speaks very highly of college Jamarcus
This.
He was a smart QB at LSU. He just got lazy in the pros with 60 million and no support system in a crap org.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:18 pm to TigerBait1127
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Yep, JR was shy and didn't want the spotlight on him. One of his biggest flaws since he's a QB
Also I never heard "high football IQ" and Russell in the same sentence, ever. Everything leading up to the draft was about Russell's size and arm strength. With Winston it's about his understanding of the game, leadership on the field, and passion. I don't think anyone would claim those were Russell's strengths.
I imagine there are worse QBs to compare Winston to but Russell certainly is a horrible comparison.
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:18 pm to Cole Beer
JR playing weight was 275+.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:19 pm to UnAnon
quote:How are you assessing this? By star rating or by who was drafted?
FSU's O-Line and Recieving core while Winston has been there has been absolutely ridiculous. Easily both top 5 units in the country.
I'd argue that EJ Manuel had more talent around him than Winston
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:19 pm to wildtigercat93
The BC and Florida games were downright horrendous. Something was wrong with him last year.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:21 pm to ReauxlTide222
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The BC and Florida games were downright horrendous. Something was wrong with him last year.
Lost a lot on OL and no Kelvin Benjamin to bail him out.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:22 pm to TheCaterpillar
So we agree that he was asked to do more.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:23 pm to TigerBait1127
I'm not dogging Russell. Just saying that more was asked of Winston.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:24 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:Kiffin definitely didn't want him in Oakland.
He was a smart QB at LSU. He just got lazy in the pros with 60 million and no support system in a crap org.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:24 pm to boom roasted
Without a doubt Winston was asked to do more at FSU.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:24 pm to boom roasted
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So we agree that he was asked to do more.
He had to throw more, yes, but he had the same responsibilities and the same offense and put up excellent efficiency ratings and was low on turnovers.
I don't know what you're trying to prove here.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:25 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:That Winston was asked to do more. I thought that was clear.
I don't know what you're trying to prove here.
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