- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
‘Death’ for Louisville Basketball?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:35 am
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:35 am
LINK
quote:
After the University of Louisville men’s basketball team was linked to a widespread kickback scheme that federal officials have been investigating, as the U.S. attorney for New York revealed last week, the public pondered: Would the program, one of the top performers in the country, be killed? The National Collegiate Athletic Association hasn’t imposed the “death penalty” on a Division I program since 1987, when the football team at Southern Methodist University was punished for repeated violations over a number of years, including payments to players. But Louisville, at least on the surface, seems to fit the basic criteria -- multiple significant violations of NCAA rules -- for a competition ban, which usually lasts at least one season. It’s the most severe punishment the NCAA can hand down. Former NCAA officials and experts offered mixed assessments of whether the association has maintained the clout to carry out the death penalty now, or whether Louisville’s indiscretions would even warrant it. The New York-based United States attorney’s office and the Federal Bureau of Investigation shook college athletics last week by announcing corruption and bribery charges against high-ranking Adidas executives and four assistant or associate basketball coaches at major programs across the country. It also surfaced that Adidas, which sponsors Louisville's sports program, and others allegedly paid a six-figure sum to a high school recruit to direct him to Louisville.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:59 am to biggsc
As I keep repeating in a lot of these threads, the NCAA is far more likely to inflict the “half death penalty” used on Baylor basketball in the 2000s after the Dave Bliss scandals.
League schedule only, no tournies, no schollies or limited ones for X years.
The way basketball schollies are set up, it will take them probably 3-4 years after that season to get up to a full allotment because there are limits to the number that can be offered in one season or across two seasons.
That pretty much cripples the program for a minimum of 5 years, if not longer because they have no margin for error.
League schedule only, no tournies, no schollies or limited ones for X years.
The way basketball schollies are set up, it will take them probably 3-4 years after that season to get up to a full allotment because there are limits to the number that can be offered in one season or across two seasons.
That pretty much cripples the program for a minimum of 5 years, if not longer because they have no margin for error.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:05 am to biggsc
They won't go that far. Like posted above it will be similar to the punishment for Baylor I think
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:33 am to biggsc
they probably SHOULD get it but they probably won't
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:37 am to biggsc
Why not an extended punishment that gradually reduces over time?
Ex: 10-year punishment.
Years 1-4: 6 scholarship reduction per year.
Years 4-8: 4 scholarship reduction per year.
Years 8-10:2 scholarship reduction per year.
Ex: 10-year punishment.
Years 1-4: 6 scholarship reduction per year.
Years 4-8: 4 scholarship reduction per year.
Years 8-10:2 scholarship reduction per year.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 9:38 am
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:39 am to biggsc
No because they saw what death did to a major university and its funding with SMU. They vowed that they would never do it again or it would have happened to Baylor, Houston, Penn St, and OU.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 9:40 am
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:51 am to sms151t
The NCAA just isn't powerful enough to do it to a school in a P5 conference anymore... Now a minor program, yeah.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:04 am to biggsc
I don't think Louisville or any school will ever get the death penalty ever again. Here's why. First the NCAA has said they should not have done that to SMU. They were left with no other option, but it killed the program so badly, that it never recovered. Second, look at Penn St.. What they did was far far worse than what these basketball schools have done. The NCAA slammed them pretty hard, and then pulled back and removed a lot of the sanctions.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:10 am to biggsc
Don't think we'll ever see the death penalty again.
If it was going to happen it would've happened with Penn St.
If it was going to happen it would've happened with Penn St.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 11:12 am
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:10 am to chalmetteowl
quote:
The NCAA just isn't powerful enough to do it to a school in a P5 conference anymore... Now a minor program, yeah.
Western Kentucky f'ed.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:22 am to GetCocky11
quote:
Western Kentucky f'ed.
Maybe...
Just know that the money is so big now, P5 schools will start their own organization and leave the NCAA before one of them gets the death penalty
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:26 am to Kracka
quote:
I don't think Louisville or any school will ever get the death penalty ever again. Here's why.
If they did not slam UNC for 30 years of cheating they are not going to hammer Louisville now. It is interesting tho that the federal snitch was a UNC guy who with a deal got UNC off in this investigation.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:29 am to Cheese Grits
quote:
If they did not slam UNC for 30 years of cheating they are not going to hammer Louisville now. It is interesting tho that the federal snitch was a UNC guy who with a deal got UNC off in this investigation.
GTFOHWTS
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:47 am to biggsc
It won't be that bad, but it's not that when you add up all of the corruption there it's not deserved.
I would like to see the NCAA disbanded, and another union formed.
I would like to see the NCAA disbanded, and another union formed.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 12:24 pm to Cheese Grits
quote:
If they did not slam UNC for 30 years of cheating they are not going to hammer Louisville now. It is interesting tho that the federal snitch was a UNC guy who with a deal got UNC off in this investigation.
First of all, KYS!
Second of all, the Academic scandal was not an NCAA violation, because the classes were offered to the entire student body.
Someone from Kentucky can correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a Louisville death penalty also mean a death penalty for the city as well? IIRC, they built the YUM Center right in downtown Louisville, and built up around the YUM Center.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:33 pm to teke184
What happened to Bliss after he quit Baylor and just now started coaching again?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:37 pm to CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Coached in the G-League after. Has bounced between high school and NAIA since
Posted on 10/4/17 at 4:31 am to biggsc
If this was Fresno State or Western Kentucky, the NCAA would deliver the death blow.
Since UL in now a P5 team, nothing will happen.
All of this is going to eventually kill the NCAA.
Since UL in now a P5 team, nothing will happen.
All of this is going to eventually kill the NCAA.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 4:58 am to Goldrush25
quote:
If it was going to happen it would've happened with Penn St.
Agreed. If a 30 year child molester using campus facilities/funds being covered up doesn’t do it, nothing will.
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News