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‘Death’ for Louisville Basketball?

Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:35 am
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:35 am
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After the University of Louisville men’s basketball team was linked to a widespread kickback scheme that federal officials have been investigating, as the U.S. attorney for New York revealed last week, the public pondered: Would the program, one of the top performers in the country, be killed? The National Collegiate Athletic Association hasn’t imposed the “death penalty” on a Division I program since 1987, when the football team at Southern Methodist University was punished for repeated violations over a number of years, including payments to players. But Louisville, at least on the surface, seems to fit the basic criteria -- multiple significant violations of NCAA rules -- for a competition ban, which usually lasts at least one season. It’s the most severe punishment the NCAA can hand down. Former NCAA officials and experts offered mixed assessments of whether the association has maintained the clout to carry out the death penalty now, or whether Louisville’s indiscretions would even warrant it. The New York-based United States attorney’s office and the Federal Bureau of Investigation shook college athletics last week by announcing corruption and bribery charges against high-ranking Adidas executives and four assistant or associate basketball coaches at major programs across the country. It also surfaced that Adidas, which sponsors Louisville's sports program, and others allegedly paid a six-figure sum to a high school recruit to direct him to Louisville.

Posted by BCMCubs
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:59 am to
Not gonna happen
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:59 am to
As I keep repeating in a lot of these threads, the NCAA is far more likely to inflict the “half death penalty” used on Baylor basketball in the 2000s after the Dave Bliss scandals.

League schedule only, no tournies, no schollies or limited ones for X years.

The way basketball schollies are set up, it will take them probably 3-4 years after that season to get up to a full allotment because there are limits to the number that can be offered in one season or across two seasons.


That pretty much cripples the program for a minimum of 5 years, if not longer because they have no margin for error.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:05 am to
They won't go that far. Like posted above it will be similar to the punishment for Baylor I think
Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:33 am to
they probably SHOULD get it but they probably won't
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:37 am to
Why not an extended punishment that gradually reduces over time?

Ex: 10-year punishment.

Years 1-4: 6 scholarship reduction per year.
Years 4-8: 4 scholarship reduction per year.
Years 8-10:2 scholarship reduction per year.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 9:38 am
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:39 am to
No because they saw what death did to a major university and its funding with SMU. They vowed that they would never do it again or it would have happened to Baylor, Houston, Penn St, and OU.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 9:40 am
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:51 am to
The NCAA just isn't powerful enough to do it to a school in a P5 conference anymore... Now a minor program, yeah.
Posted by Kracka
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:04 am to
I don't think Louisville or any school will ever get the death penalty ever again. Here's why. First the NCAA has said they should not have done that to SMU. They were left with no other option, but it killed the program so badly, that it never recovered. Second, look at Penn St.. What they did was far far worse than what these basketball schools have done. The NCAA slammed them pretty hard, and then pulled back and removed a lot of the sanctions.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:10 am to
Don't think we'll ever see the death penalty again.

If it was going to happen it would've happened with Penn St.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 11:12 am
Posted by GetCocky11
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:10 am to
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The NCAA just isn't powerful enough to do it to a school in a P5 conference anymore... Now a minor program, yeah.


Western Kentucky f'ed.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:22 am to
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Western Kentucky f'ed.


Maybe...

Just know that the money is so big now, P5 schools will start their own organization and leave the NCAA before one of them gets the death penalty
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:26 am to
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I don't think Louisville or any school will ever get the death penalty ever again. Here's why.


If they did not slam UNC for 30 years of cheating they are not going to hammer Louisville now. It is interesting tho that the federal snitch was a UNC guy who with a deal got UNC off in this investigation.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:29 am to
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If they did not slam UNC for 30 years of cheating they are not going to hammer Louisville now. It is interesting tho that the federal snitch was a UNC guy who with a deal got UNC off in this investigation.


GTFOHWTS
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:47 am to
It won't be that bad, but it's not that when you add up all of the corruption there it's not deserved.

I would like to see the NCAA disbanded, and another union formed.
Posted by HoLeInOnEr05
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 12:24 pm to
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If they did not slam UNC for 30 years of cheating they are not going to hammer Louisville now. It is interesting tho that the federal snitch was a UNC guy who with a deal got UNC off in this investigation.




First of all, KYS!

Second of all, the Academic scandal was not an NCAA violation, because the classes were offered to the entire student body.

Someone from Kentucky can correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a Louisville death penalty also mean a death penalty for the city as well? IIRC, they built the YUM Center right in downtown Louisville, and built up around the YUM Center.
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:33 pm to
What happened to Bliss after he quit Baylor and just now started coaching again?
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
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20685 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:37 pm to
Coached in the G-League after. Has bounced between high school and NAIA since
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6209 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 4:31 am to
If this was Fresno State or Western Kentucky, the NCAA would deliver the death blow.

Since UL in now a P5 team, nothing will happen.

All of this is going to eventually kill the NCAA.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 4:58 am to
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If it was going to happen it would've happened with Penn St.


Agreed. If a 30 year child molester using campus facilities/funds being covered up doesn’t do it, nothing will.
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