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re: DAT: Offseason Thread (Spring Training has begun!!)
Posted on 1/16/17 at 5:47 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 1/16/17 at 5:47 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Gray before last season was a no-doubt ace. Injuries were clearly the issue, and it's a total unknown if they were a one-year aberration. If the A's are really selling at this point, that's not really a good sign.
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Posted on 1/16/17 at 6:24 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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I'm skeptical Gray is the answer
he'd be the best pitcher on the staff. Maybe not an ace, but certainly the Astros ace.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 6:31 pm to Lester Earl
If they're going to deal from the top of their system they should be aiming for a significant upgrade. Gray would not have been the best pitcher on their staff any of the last three years.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 6:40 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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If they're going to deal from the top of their system they should be aiming for a significant upgrade
you dont think Gray significantly upgrades this staff?
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Gray would not have been the best pitcher on their staff any of the last three years.
ya and sadly, none of those guys are who you thought they were, were they?
Posted on 1/16/17 at 6:41 pm to Lester Earl
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you dont think Gray significantly upgrades this staff?
Not by enough to justify a deal and what the asking price likely is
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ya and sadly, none of those guys are who you thought they were, were they?
Sounds like Gray IMO
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 1/16/17 at 6:51 pm to Jwho77
quote:was he though? a good front of the rotation pitcher no doubt. but "ace"? idk
Gray before last season was a no-doubt ace
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 1/16/17 at 8:37 pm to Lester Earl
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Maybe not an ace, but certainly the Astros ace.
Come on LE -- you can't have it both ways. Every season you say that Keuchel is not an Ace, despite winning the Cy Young. Ok, I agree with you.
But then you say Sonny Gray should be treated like an Ace... even though his seasons/career really isn't as good of a trajectory as Keuchel's? So, now you think the Astros should trade him, simply because he would be the Astros Ace? Yet -- Keuchel was the Astro's Ace in 2015 and you said over and over that it was wrong to call him an Ace, because he is not. (And yes, I've come around to the dark side and agree with you on this point).
Regardless, it sounds a bit flippy-floppy on your part. You're usually pretty even-keel on your critique of players.
I think that's what the other guy was trying to say -- he isn't an Ace... don't get desperate and trade for him like he is an Ace.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 8:55 pm to WestCoastAg
Yeah, his numbers were ace-level. His skill set was ace-level as a starter. Saying he was performing to that standard is not saying he was a Top 10 MLB starter overall. But he was a TOR starter for sure.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 8:58 pm to Floating Change Up
Not big on gray. Very slight build and he won't hold up long term.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 9:00 pm to Jwho77
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This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:15 pm to Floating Change Up
This is all Mark Appel's fault.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:49 am to Jwho77
quote:and i guess thats where the semantics comes in. i wouldnt call him an ace but thats because i think we only have like 7 or 8 actual "aces" in baseball
. Saying he was performing to that standard is not saying he was a Top 10 MLB starter overall. But he was a TOR starter for sure
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:58 am to 5 Deep
AJ Reed looking fat AF
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:41 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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AJ Reed looking fat AF
I first read that as "AJ Reed looking frat AF"... My reaction was confusion because he just looks fat to me.
Then I read again and thought, "oh. yeah."
That's a shame -- was hoping he'd really get into shape and work hard this off-season. I got to see him play a couple of games in CC. Then again in 3 games in Houston. Dude has a beautiful swing. Maybe he needs some of Big-Jon's weed? Wait, on second thought, AJ is the last guy on the team that needs to have the munchies.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:26 pm to Floating Change Up
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@BNightengale: The #Astros, in need for a starter, remain engaged with #WhiteSox for Jose Quintana, #Rays for Chris Archer and #Athletics for Sonny Gray.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:26 pm to WestCoastAg
Sure, I get that. There's "best in baseball" and "ace of the staff" concepts to me. Some staffs lack an ace (bat signal to LE), but Gray was an ace the previous two seasons for Oakland and not just a guy filling the No. 1 starter role.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:39 pm to Jwho77
Also, just a reminder, less than 24 hr until we find out about Bags and the HOF 
Posted on 1/17/17 at 5:05 pm to Floating Change Up
I hope AJ likes the food in Fresno.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 5:17 pm to 5 Deep
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less than 24 hr until we find out about Bags and the HOF
He's at over 88% right now. Only needs to pull 60% of the remaining votes.
Looks like He makes it Easily
quote:FIFY
I hope AJ likes the food in Charlotte.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 5:17 pm to 5 Deep
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Also, just a reminder, less than 24 hr until we find out about Bags and the HOF
He's gotten 88% of the ballots made public so far. Those ballots make of 51% of the total votes. The presumption is this is the year he makes it in.
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