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re: DAT 8/14 Astros (McHugh) @ D-Backs (Greinke) 8:40 pm
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:47 am to Jwho77
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:47 am to Jwho77
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Source: #Astros continue to seek bullpen upgrades after adding Clippard and Liriano. Would like to add another left-handed reliever.
Interpretation: the first LHR we acquired has been pure shite so we're going to continue looking for a LHR that can get somebody out.
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:53 am to TXGunslinger10
Baseball America on Whitley's jump to Double-A today hints at a mid-summer MLB debut for him next season based on past guys like him:
LINK
LINK
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:56 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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#Astros continue to seek bullpen upgrades after adding Clippard and Liriano. Would like to add another left-handed reliever.
What are..things that should have happened a month ago.
Also, this may be an indication of Feliz's injury status. Went on the DL with "shoulder discomfort" two weeks ago and we haven't heard a peep on him since.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:08 am to Jwho77
Don't be stealing my thunder! 
ETA: I had no idea he was in such rare company
ETA: I had no idea he was in such rare company
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 11:08 am
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:29 am to texastiger38
I just read that Ric Flair is not doing well and is in ICU in a hospital near Atlanta. Could the Nature Boy's poor health be a reason for Reddick's slump? 
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:33 am to texastiger38
Verlander please?
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:39 am to texastiger38
If they are that much of believers in him I 100% get why he's untouchable however you gotta be flexible with others. I hope the kid lives up to his billing. I know that the traditional guys like Nolan Ryan loved him and obviously the metrics nerds like ludlow love him.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:52 am to texastiger38
I'll knock on some wood. But maybe it's time we openly showed some trust in Luke Gregerson again.
Since his 6ER meltdown against the Royals on April 8th
42.1IP 37H 51K 14BB 2.98 ERA. 10.8 K/9 52% GB rate.
It seems Tyler Clippard's overall numbers suffer from a similar situation. He pitched 3 times in a 5 game stretch during June where he allowed 9 of the 22 earned runs he's allowed on the year.
Prior to that stretch he had allowed 16 hits in 28.1IP with a 2.22 ERA and 10.8 K/9. Since then, 12H in 16.2 innings 10.3 K/9 3.24 ERA. Although his walks per 9 is above 5 in that stretch.
Since his 6ER meltdown against the Royals on April 8th
42.1IP 37H 51K 14BB 2.98 ERA. 10.8 K/9 52% GB rate.
It seems Tyler Clippard's overall numbers suffer from a similar situation. He pitched 3 times in a 5 game stretch during June where he allowed 9 of the 22 earned runs he's allowed on the year.
Prior to that stretch he had allowed 16 hits in 28.1IP with a 2.22 ERA and 10.8 K/9. Since then, 12H in 16.2 innings 10.3 K/9 3.24 ERA. Although his walks per 9 is above 5 in that stretch.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:57 am to Lsuhoohoo
Saw a stat earlier that Clippard allowed 15 ER in 15 innings at Yankee stadium
7 ER in the other 25-30 innings
So note to Jeff and AJ, maybe don't pitch him at yankee stadium if we see them in the playoffs
7 ER in the other 25-30 innings
So note to Jeff and AJ, maybe don't pitch him at yankee stadium if we see them in the playoffs
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:58 am to Lsuhoohoo
It seems we are getting closer to where the pen needs to be with this deal.
Playoff pen as of now:
Giles, healthy Harris, Devo, Luke, Clippard, Peacock, Musgrove and (at this point there's no other choice) Liriano as the lefty.
But the fact that Jabroni and Morton are the starting options for Games 3 & 4? If not adding Verlander, getting another proven vet reliever helps make the quick hooks easier.
Playoff pen as of now:
Giles, healthy Harris, Devo, Luke, Clippard, Peacock, Musgrove and (at this point there's no other choice) Liriano as the lefty.
But the fact that Jabroni and Morton are the starting options for Games 3 & 4? If not adding Verlander, getting another proven vet reliever helps make the quick hooks easier.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:00 pm to Jwho77
The question is do we get a starter like a Marco Estrada, or a LH who is better than Liriano? I think it will end up being the reliever. Jabroni and Morton have been up and down, but adding a starter (besides Verlander) who's a clear upgrade over Morton and Jabroni could be tough.
It's tough to say without knowing who is really available though
It's tough to say without knowing who is really available though
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:04 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
I think we try to get another reliever (Storen maybe) but I don't see any lefties out there to be had.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:09 pm to Jwho77
Storen would be a great pickup. I saw Jerry Blevins didn't make it through waivers, he was someone I was hoping we could get if he did. Because there's so few options in that market they're probably much more likely to get blocked
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:14 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
MLB Trade Rumors suggests Derek Holland could be an Astros target for another Liriano-type lefty experiment. But we just made a deal with the White Sox so one would think it would have already happened.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:14 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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But maybe it's time we openly showed some trust in Luke Gregerson again.
Yes. He was absolutely filthy in that game vs. the White Sox where they got the cheap hits and had runners at 2nd and 3rd with no out....then he pitched out of it.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:16 pm to Jwho77
Yeah I don't see that. I think any lefty is gonna be a guy who is already a reliever and is struggling this year that they think they can turn around. Also take with a huge grain of salt but I saw this posted on ClutchFans like an hour ago. Passan is pretty plugged in if he actually said this on Chicago sports radio
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For what it is worth, Jeff Passan just said that he believes Verlander will be dealt on 670 the score in Chicago. He didn't say where to, but said there is someone that needs him and is motivated.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:25 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
I believe it. I think it's the Cubs.
Darkhorse: Angels (they'd eat the whole contract).
Darkhorse: Angels (they'd eat the whole contract).
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:27 pm to Jwho77
That would make the most sense
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:28 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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For what it is worth, Jeff Passan just said that he believes Verlander will be dealt on 670 the score in Chicago. He didn't say where to, but said there is someone that needs him and is motivated.
Could also be the Yankees, they lost Sabathia and Tanaka to the DL and don't want to lose a wild card spot, plus the division isn't out of reach.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:44 pm to Jwho77
Mariners are another I would wonder about. Regardless I don't think it's us but interesting nonetheless. If he does get moved hopefully it's to an NL team.
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