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re: DAT 5/19: Sweep Time: Astros (McHugh) @ White Sox (Sale) - 7:10 pm
Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:39 am to 5 Deep
Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:39 am to 5 Deep
My biggest issue with AJ is that he is going down the same path of over working the hell out of our better pen arms. It doesn't help that we can't win a game by more than 3 runs, but the reason the pen was shaky last year is because a lot of guys were tired.
Last night, with a 3 run lead, I would have liked to see Fister not come out for the 7th. Use Neshek, Feliz or Devenski in the 7th up 3 and then hopefully be able to give one of Giles, Harris and Gregerson a game off. But now all 3 of those guys have pitched in 2 straight and I don't foresee a scenario tonight that we wouldn't need them again if we are winning (because we probably won't blow out Sale).
With Feliz's improvement since the beginning of the season and Devenski's emergence, I want AJ to trust them a little bit in terms of protecting leads, in order to keep our main 3 fresh.
Last night, with a 3 run lead, I would have liked to see Fister not come out for the 7th. Use Neshek, Feliz or Devenski in the 7th up 3 and then hopefully be able to give one of Giles, Harris and Gregerson a game off. But now all 3 of those guys have pitched in 2 straight and I don't foresee a scenario tonight that we wouldn't need them again if we are winning (because we probably won't blow out Sale).
With Feliz's improvement since the beginning of the season and Devenski's emergence, I want AJ to trust them a little bit in terms of protecting leads, in order to keep our main 3 fresh.
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:42 am to dhav14
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Last night, with a 3 run lead, I would have liked to see Fister not come out for the 7th. Use Neshek, Feliz or Devenski in the 7th up 3 and then hopefully be able to give one of Giles, Harris and Gregerson a game off. But now all 3 of those guys have pitched in 2 straight.
100% agree
Rolling the dice on Fister in the 7th was bad business, setting up the need to bring in your best strikeout arm for more high-leverage work again (it was deja vu from the night before with Keuchel). If Devo or Feliz cannot give you a good inning in the 7th up 3 runs, they should not be in your bullpen.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:44 am to Jwho77
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nobody is saying fire him
I am.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 1:34 pm to Tiger Ryno
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My biggest issue with AJ is that he is going down the same path of over working the hell out of our better pen arms.
It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If he rolls out Fields, everyone gets pissy and screams, "Dammit Hunch!!! Don't put that worthless trash in the game!!" Yet, when he goes with the best arms in the pen, "Dammit Hunch!!! You're over-using these guys."
Simple fact is, this year's pen is not as reliable as last year's guys - for whatever reason. It certainly isn't deep enough for a playoff caliber team. Giles was supposed to be the answer. Can you imagine a reliable and top-form Neshak, Harris, Gregerson, Giles for a 6,7,8,9 combo? Throw in a couple of the new guys to complete the Pen and give the main guys some off days. Guys that the team were expected to be reliable simply aren't getting the job done. It is not Hinch's fault that Giles has a bad habbit of serving up 95mph meatballs.
This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 5/19/16 at 1:38 pm to Floating Change Up
This is true, and something I failed to mention previously
Posted on 5/19/16 at 1:51 pm to Floating Change Up
I think the main pitching complaint is not trying to stretch starters who don't throw hard out that one extra inning, leaving a mess for the first reliever to try and fix.
This year's Keuchel is less physically than last year's, and it is something the coaching staff must accept. Fister is a huge risk after two times through the order. If you get six out of them, don't get greedy. It's why we are carrying 13 pitchers. Let the young ones handle innings with a clean slate as much as possible while they build confidence.
If fatigue hits the pen, Hoyt is ready. Jankowski and Guduan can help, too.
This year's Keuchel is less physically than last year's, and it is something the coaching staff must accept. Fister is a huge risk after two times through the order. If you get six out of them, don't get greedy. It's why we are carrying 13 pitchers. Let the young ones handle innings with a clean slate as much as possible while they build confidence.
If fatigue hits the pen, Hoyt is ready. Jankowski and Guduan can help, too.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 2:03 pm to Jwho77
Just thought about something when you mentioned Hoyt: Is having Feldman, Feliz and Devenski all in the same bullpen kind of redundant?
Feldman is the "long man" but we haven't seen Feliz used much outside of long/mop up relief. It's too early to tell how Devo with be utilized since he is just recently back in the pen, but previously was mostly long relief before getting a few higher leverage opps.
I wouldn't mind seeing Hoyt get an opportunity and either let Feliz/Devo go down to AAA and start, or move on from Feldman.
Feldman is the "long man" but we haven't seen Feliz used much outside of long/mop up relief. It's too early to tell how Devo with be utilized since he is just recently back in the pen, but previously was mostly long relief before getting a few higher leverage opps.
I wouldn't mind seeing Hoyt get an opportunity and either let Feliz/Devo go down to AAA and start, or move on from Feldman.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 2:25 pm to dhav14
Yeah I would expect one or both to go back and start some games at Fresno. Plus if Giles is eventually moved back to the closer role, or a true setup guy where he'll be starting innings, you'll need Hoyt or someone that can come into a tight spot when you need strikeouts (like Giles recently).
Posted on 5/19/16 at 4:16 pm to MOT
Posted on 5/19/16 at 4:36 pm to dhav14
Ahhh Gattis at catcher. We'll see how this goes.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 4:37 pm to dhav14
Glad hinch didn't finally let's a hot guy play two days in a row with kemp.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 4:49 pm to dhav14
I'm very confused on how I should feel about this lineup.
Not as good as, say, the Red Sox.
Not as bad as, say, the Twins.
Not as good as, say, the Red Sox.
Not as bad as, say, the Twins.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 4:52 pm to Floating Change Up
Probably the smartest lineup to put out there. Buena will go oppo quite a bit while Moran, a better option one day maybe, might be overmatched here. Kemp's numbers in the minors indicate he is pretty good at drawing walks and fighting off pitches versus lefties.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 4:53 pm to lsusportsman2
Gattis will be tested early I'm sure.
Going into tonight, McHugh is sporting a .337 BAA
Going into tonight, Sale is sporting a .167 BAA
Sale career #s vs Hou: 32IP 19H 2ER 1HR 47K 0.56ERA
Going into tonight, McHugh is sporting a .337 BAA
Going into tonight, Sale is sporting a .167 BAA
Sale career #s vs Hou: 32IP 19H 2ER 1HR 47K 0.56ERA
Posted on 5/19/16 at 4:55 pm to Jwho77
Kemp is the type of hitter who is perfect to have in the lineup vs someone like Sale. He's a very Royals-type hitter and they always seem to give aces trouble because of their ability to make pitchers work and have productive at bats
Posted on 5/19/16 at 4:58 pm to List Eater
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Going into tonight, McHugh is sporting a .337 BAA
Going into tonight, Sale is sporting a .167 BAA
Sale career #s vs Hou: 32IP 19H 2ER 1HR 47K 0.56ERA
Posted on 5/19/16 at 5:04 pm to Jwho77
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Sale career #s vs Hou: 32IP 19H 2ER 1HR 47K 0.56ERA
Posted on 5/19/16 at 5:11 pm to List Eater
Kluber had similar stats
Posted on 5/19/16 at 5:27 pm to dhav14
Get ya brooms ready
Posted on 5/19/16 at 6:04 pm to List Eater
FcHugh is a bigger problem than the lineup. He's one of the worst starters in baseball.
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