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re: DAT 2015-2016 Offseason Thread
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:53 pm to TXGunslinger10
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:53 pm to TXGunslinger10
List of players who can piss off:
Carter
Castro
Gattis
Lowrie
Harris
Perez
Neshek
Qualls
Missing anyone?
Carter
Castro
Gattis
Lowrie
Harris
Perez
Neshek
Qualls
Missing anyone?
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:54 pm to TXGunslinger10
Already had this typed up eh?
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:54 pm to msutiger
I love and hate Gomez. When he's good he's great but when he's bad, he's really bad. I can't stand his approach at the plate.
I just think we can do better than Gomez. But if he's back next season I won't necessarily hate it, just think he may be a good piece for a big time trade if the return is worth it.
I just think we can do better than Gomez. But if he's back next season I won't necessarily hate it, just think he may be a good piece for a big time trade if the return is worth it.
This post was edited on 10/14/15 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:56 pm to List Eater
quote:
Harris
Poor Will. Let's not scapegoat him. If we aren't going to do it to Carlito for the botched DP, we should not do it to Harris for death by singles. Without either of them, there is no postseason.
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:56 pm to rlebl39
I hope AJ Preller sits on an open box of thumb tacks tonight. Sorry piece of shite that can't accept his off season bonanza was a complete turd.
Biggest failure of the season was making Ollie Perez our only bullpen addition. There's not one guy in our pen that you can count on to get a shut down inning. It made a difference. That was the difference in this series.
6th inning of game 2
8th inning of game 4
5th inning of game 5
all multi run innings for the Royals that did us in. The hole was especially glaring in game 4.
Biggest failure of the season was making Ollie Perez our only bullpen addition. There's not one guy in our pen that you can count on to get a shut down inning. It made a difference. That was the difference in this series.
6th inning of game 2
8th inning of game 4
5th inning of game 5
all multi run innings for the Royals that did us in. The hole was especially glaring in game 4.
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:56 pm to angryslugs
He's our Chris Carter of the bullpen. Luhnow won't let him go.
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:56 pm to rlebl39
Gomez, unfortunately, probably isn't going anywhere.
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:56 pm to TXGunslinger10
We more than overachieved, but damn it hurts now that it's over. We were 6 outs away and MMP was rocking. I thought we were going to see them celebrate an ALDS series win in Houston. Not this year.
Proud of this team. Very young and resilient. The future is bright.
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:57 pm to Jwho77
quote:
That's where the top bats in the high minors come into play. They will compete for time at the corners and DH, in particular.
dude they need some veteran leadership, clearly.
quote:
Nope. In fact, they will probably sign no one.
Keuchel
McHugh
LMJ (expecting more)
Fiers
Feldman/Velasquez/Musgrove/Appel/Feliz/Straily
booked marked. you going to be wrong
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:58 pm to Jwho77
Will was good this year, but good god did he pick a bad time to totally shite himself
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:58 pm to rlebl39
quote:
The future is now though and there are so many things to be positive about going forward. For the first time in a long long time I can't wait for Astros baseball to be back already.
As much as my butt hurts right now I am very excited for the future of this team.
The off season is going to be interesting
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:59 pm to Lester Earl
They aren't stopping the youth movement or spending a ton of money this offseason. A big ticket OF and bullpen help will be a big expense as it is. Luhnow has #TheProcess.
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:59 pm to List Eater
quote:
List of players who can piss off:
Carter
Castro
Gattis
Lowrie
Harris
Perez
Neshek
Qualls
Missing anyone?
Agreed on Carter, Perez and Qualls.
I know it's hard because several of these guys had a shitty series, but look at the whole season:
Harris pitched way above his head this year
Lowrie was well on his way to a really good season before his injury
Gattis is still under club control and led the team in RBI and triples
Castro has one more year to get his shite together
I'm willing to give Neshek another shot. All of our dependable bullpen guys got way overused this season.
And I'm convinced Fields can be a good long relief guy. But we've got to quit putting him in late in tight games
This post was edited on 10/14/15 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:59 pm to Jwho77
Last updated 10-7-15
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 10:01 pm to Jwho77
never said they are stopping the youth movement. but the staff isn't good enough as is. of course im not much of a mchugh fan. we all saw how the league caught onto him from 14' to this year. Im curious to see how he adjusts in 2016.
Posted on 10/14/15 at 10:03 pm to Lester Earl
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2 starting pitchers. borderline SP1/2 that you can put behind or in front of Dallas. Then a mid-rotation guy
nah, we're good
quote:
team needs to add 2 veteran bats. a veteran OF or C or 1B.
Agree on C, like having Gomez where he is.
quote:
overall need better team contact. Guys that can get on base to best give the mashers opportunities to hit them in.
Our best prospects are going to help dramatically.
Priorities in offseason are C (would hang onto Castro though), one great setup man, and an elite closer.
Posted on 10/14/15 at 10:03 pm to Lester Earl
You're telling me what you would do. I'm telling you what the Astros front office will do.
Posted on 10/14/15 at 10:04 pm to Jwho77
What are the power ball numbers?
Posted on 10/14/15 at 10:04 pm to Prominentwon
market for relievers is largely shite. Gonna have to make a trade.
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