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re: Dan Marino would not trade his Hall of Fame induction for a Super Bowl ring
Posted on 4/26/15 at 1:10 pm to mattz1122
Posted on 4/26/15 at 1:10 pm to mattz1122
I'm sick of this Marino had no talent on the team with him. The Dolphins made it to the Super Bowl the year Marino was drafted with David Woodley as their QB. Are you suggesting that the roster that was good enough to make it to the Super Bowl with Woodley was not good enough to make it with Marino more than once?
Go back and check the playoff losses by the Dolphins. You'll see an unusually high number of turnovers by the Dolphins. Marino had the same tendency that people criticize Peyton Manning for, he just didn't play as well in post-season as he did in the regular season. Why does Marino get he excuse that his teammates weren't good enough, but Manning doesn't?
Go back and check the playoff losses by the Dolphins. You'll see an unusually high number of turnovers by the Dolphins. Marino had the same tendency that people criticize Peyton Manning for, he just didn't play as well in post-season as he did in the regular season. Why does Marino get he excuse that his teammates weren't good enough, but Manning doesn't?
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Posted on 4/26/15 at 1:16 pm to Poodlebrain
quote:The year he went to the Super Bowl his leading rusher had 606 yards.... Mark Clayton and Mark Duper were his top receivers.... The Dolphins probably win the Super Bowl had San Fran been upset by anyone....
The Dolphins made it to the Super Bowl the year Marino was drafted with David Woodley as their QB. Are you suggesting that the roster that was good enough to make it to the Super Bowl with Woodley was not good enough to make it with Marino more than once?
The Dolphins never had overly talented teams, they had good teams but even I'm not sure they had another offensive Hall of Fame player besides Marino during his tenure.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 1:30 pm to oleyeller
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The hall of fame is an individual accomplishmeny, which means you are one of the greatest individuals to ever play the game
Agreed, But Marino needed an O-line to protect him and wr's to catch the ball... But what sets him apart is that he made them SOOO much better because of his ability..... Screw A ring... I would have rather had Marinos carreer than Dilfers....
Posted on 4/26/15 at 1:42 pm to tduecen
quote:The 1981 Super Bowl champion San Francisco 49ers leading rusher was Ricky Patton with 543 yards. Care to make another excuse?
The year he went to the Super Bowl his leading rusher had 606 yards.... Mark Clayton and Mark Duper were his top receivers.... The Dolphins probably win the Super Bowl had San Fran been upset by anyone...
quote:Does Dwight Stephenson ring a bell? Mark Clayton was a five time Pro Bowler who had the single season TD reception record until Jerry Rice came along, Mark Duper was a three time Pro Bowler and Irving Fryar was a five time Pro Bowler (twice with the Dolphins. Just for comparison, how many Pro Bowl receivers has Drew Brees played with?
The Dolphins never had overly talented teams, they had good teams but even I'm not sure they had another offensive Hall of Fame player besides Marino during his tenure.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 1:57 pm to Poodlebrain
quote:they also had one of the best defenses in the NFL, they were not ranked near the bottom of the NFL. Dolphins defense ranked 19th in Yards allowed and 7th in pointed allowed, the San Fran team 2nd in yards allowed and 2nd in points allowed.
The 1981 Super Bowl champion San Francisco 49ers leading rusher was Ricky Patton with 543 yards. Care to make another excuse?
The San Fran offense was very average in 1981 while the Dolphins offense was legit, that Defense led the 49'ers to the Super Bowl and caused Marino to have a horrible Super Bowl.
quote:Woohoo a Center made the Hall of Fame......
Does Dwight Stephenson ring a bell? Mark Clayton was a five time Pro Bowler who had the single season TD reception record until Jerry Rice came along, Mark Duper was a three time Pro Bowler and Irving Fryar was a five time Pro Bowler (twice with the Dolphins. Just for comparison, how many Pro Bowl receivers has Drew Brees played with?
quote:How many Pro-Bowl offensive lineman has Drew had vs Marino then? I bet you notice a difference in that as well.... oh what about Tight Ends, oh what about running backs?
Just for comparison, how many Pro Bowl receivers has Drew Brees played with?
Posted on 4/26/15 at 2:05 pm to Poodlebrain
That was the year before and it was a strike season with 9 games.
If Overstreet doesn't die there's his running game.
The defense that played in the Super Bowl at Palo Alto wasn't the same the Killer B's had started to disband by then. Also I believe AJ Duhe was hurt and didn't play in the Super Bowl.
If Overstreet doesn't die there's his running game.
The defense that played in the Super Bowl at Palo Alto wasn't the same the Killer B's had started to disband by then. Also I believe AJ Duhe was hurt and didn't play in the Super Bowl.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 2:09 pm to sms151t
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That was the year before and it was a strike season with 9 games.
That was 1982. Not 1983..... he Jts did go to the AFC champ game in 82[strike seaon] But Mariono was not on that team.... And No A.J didn't play against the 49ers in the 1984/85 SB....
Posted on 4/26/15 at 2:24 pm to Bench McElroy
I wouldn't trade being Dan Marino for being Dilfer, Williams, Flacco, probably Wilson when all is said and done, etc, either.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 2:25 pm to dukke v
If I was told I had a choice between a SB win or the HOF I would take the HOF career everyday.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 7:54 pm to tduecen
You can defend Marino all you want, but you can't change the fact that he threw 32 TDs and 24 Ints in 18 playoff games, or that the Dolphins went 8-10 in those games. By comparison, Peyton Manning has thrown 38 TDs and 24 Ints in 24 playoff games in which his teams have gone 11-13. Why is Manning called a choker, but Marino is given excuses? The facts demonstrate Marino wasn't very good in the playoffs, and that is one of the reasons he never won a Super Bowl.
The Reason Joe Montana and Tom Brady get mentioned as the best QBs ever is because they don't become just average in the postseason. Montana threw 45 TDs and 21 Ints in 23 playoff games with a 16-7 record. Brady has thrown 53 TDs and 26 Ints in 29 playoff games with a 21-8 record. The numbers don't lie. Some shine on the big stage, and others, like Marino, fade.
The Reason Joe Montana and Tom Brady get mentioned as the best QBs ever is because they don't become just average in the postseason. Montana threw 45 TDs and 21 Ints in 23 playoff games with a 16-7 record. Brady has thrown 53 TDs and 26 Ints in 29 playoff games with a 21-8 record. The numbers don't lie. Some shine on the big stage, and others, like Marino, fade.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 7:58 pm to mattz1122
Hmmmm would I take being the CEO at a local million dollar company and make 500k a year, or be a staff accountant at a billion dollar leader of the industry. Bruschi is so full of shite. Marino would obviously want a super bowl ring, but to trade his success for it is fricking retarded. His job was to be the best he could be, which was all time good. To trade to be mediocre on a good team is as pussy as a pussy could be
This post was edited on 4/26/15 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 4/26/15 at 8:53 pm to tduecen
quote:Pro Bowlers who played with Marino:
How many Pro-Bowl offensive lineman has Drew had vs Marino then?
Dwight Stephenson C
Richmond Webb T
Mark Clayton WR
Mark Duper WR
Keith Sims G
Roy Foster G-T
Irving Fryar WR
Ferrell Edmunds TE
Keith Byars RB-TE
Keith Jackson TE
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:27 pm to Bench McElroy
Interesting question. I agree with Marino, I guess.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:34 pm to VA LSU fan
Lol, completely sums up Marino's career. A once-in-a-generation talent who never cared about anything but individual stats.
Good to know the loser is ok with not making it to the top.
Good to know the loser is ok with not making it to the top.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:49 pm to FootballNostradamus
quote:yeh this is the exact opposite. Bruschi is the loser who never made it to the top, not Marino. Bruschi was on a great team who would take that over actually being one of the best.
Good to know the loser is ok with not making it to the top.
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:58 pm to Poodlebrain
quote:
Go back and check the playoff losses by the Dolphins. You'll see an unusually high number of turnovers by the Dolphins
in the AFC Championship I was talking about earlier, he threw 2 interceptions just like Jim Kelly did in that game.
who the hell knows how the other TO's happened? Buffalo was just a better team plain and simple.
the Dolphins best player on defense was probably Bryan Cox and the Bills best defenders were Bruce Smith and Cornelius Bennett.
Buffalo had the advantage with talent on offense with Jim Kelly, Andre Reed, and Thurman Thomas.
Marino had Bobby Humphrey as his tailback and aging WR's Clayton and Duper. It was also before they got Irving Fryar who had a long fricking career by the way.
who are you, Ray Finkle?
Posted on 4/26/15 at 11:03 pm to Bench McElroy
Don't most super bowl rings get sold on eBay or at auction at some point in time anyway? HOF career hands down....unless I'm in a pinch and need 50K, then I'll take the SB ring.
This post was edited on 4/26/15 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 4/26/15 at 11:04 pm to Bench McElroy
I'm curious as to how many players better than Dan Marino are critical of his opinion?
Posted on 4/26/15 at 11:38 pm to ballscaster
HOF = ultimate accomplishment of an individual player, takes into account longevity and productivity
SB Ring = ultimate accomplishment of a team, takes into account quality of players, production from players, health, and a little bit of luck
I'd take being in the HOF, personally, but it would suck to not have a ring.
SB Ring = ultimate accomplishment of a team, takes into account quality of players, production from players, health, and a little bit of luck
I'd take being in the HOF, personally, but it would suck to not have a ring.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 6:09 am to mattz1122
quote:talk about a name you haven't seen in a while..
OJ McDuffie
Silly question to ask the guy tbh, not sure what people expect him to say..
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