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Cubs making a game out of robbing Rondon of saves

Posted on 5/10/16 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 2:15 pm
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"When you're on the bench and you're up three runs, two runs, whatever, we have a game we call Screw the Closer," Ross explained, laughing and admitting 'screw' isn't the word the players actually use. "We want to score more so he doesn't get the save."

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"I think 4-5 times already I got up [then down], but it doesn't bother me," Rondon said Sunday. "[Anthony] Rizzo and [David] Ross, they laugh all the time."

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"Lester will go, 'It's a little game we like to call Screw the Closer!'" Ross said. "And then we score and everyone goes 'YEAH!'"


Pretty funny, but slightly less funny when he's on your fantasy team...

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This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 2:16 pm
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 2:16 pm to
So far, the Cubs are pretty good at it.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 2:17 pm to
Don't remind me. He's got a 100% save rate and I've still only gotten 6 saves out of him this year.
Posted by BCMCubs
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 2:17 pm to
The must start playing in the 8th inning. They ruined about 5 saves with huge rallies in the 8th
Posted by TidenUP
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 2:23 pm to
Pretty cool. I do remember your reaction the other day when the Cubs scored late
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 2:38 pm to
I don't know much at all about baseball stats...what does it take to record an official save? If the closer's team keeps scoring runs does that eliminate the save opp?
Posted by JamalSanders
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 2:39 pm to
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aves: Rule 10.20 in the Official Rule Book states: Credit a pitcher with a save when he meets all three of the following conditions: (1) He is the finishing pitcher in a game won by his club; and (2) He is not the winning pitcher; and (3) He qualifies under one of the following conditions: - (a) He enters the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches for at least one inning; or - (b) He enters the game, regardless of the count, with the potential tying run either on base, or at bat, or on deck (that is, the potential tying run is either already on base or is one of the first two batsmen he faces; or - (c) He pitches effectively for at least three innings. No more than one save may be credited in each game.


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Posted by WareagleTD
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 2:39 pm to
Opposing team has to be within 3 runs or less if I remember correctly.
Posted by medtiger
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 2:45 pm to
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Opposing team has to be within 3 runs or less if I remember correctly.


Not necessarily. The tying run has to be on deck when he enters the game. The other day, the Rangers closer Tolleson came into a game the Rangers were leading 10-5 with the bases loaded and 2 outs. He got the first batter out and was credited with a save because the tying run was on deck.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 2:56 pm to
Wes Littleton once recorded a save in a 27-run blowout by pitching the last 3.

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Posted by MrWiseGuy
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:21 pm to
slightly less funny when he's on your fantasy team...
Posted by CoachKlein
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:33 pm to
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LSUBoo


I've been a fan of baseball for 20 years and didn't realize this was possible. What qualifies as "pitched effectively?"
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:44 pm to
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JamalSanders


thanks.

I guess my next question is, if a closer comes into the game where the lead is less than 3 runs and meets all those criteria...if his team keeps scoring runs (like the cubs guy) why does that blow his save as long as all those other criteria are met?
Posted by tzimme4
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:45 pm to
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Don't remind me. He's got a 100% save rate and I've still only gotten 6 saves out of him this year.

Still less than the Astros
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

I guess my next question is, if a closer comes into the game where the lead is less than 3 runs and meets all those criteria...if his team keeps scoring runs (like the cubs guy) why does that blow his save as long as all those other criteria are met?




The closer usually comes in to start the 9th inning. So, if the Cubs are up 2 going into the bottom of the 8th, and don't score, or score 1, then, Rondon would come in to start the 9th and will qualify for the save. However, if they are up 2, and score 3 in the bottom of the 8th, Rondon either doesn't come in to start the 9th, or if he does, it's not a save opportunity.
Posted by Biggereztiger
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 4:05 pm to
How?
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 4:10 pm to
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if the Cubs are up 2 going into the bottom of the 8th, and don't score, or score 1, then, Rondon would come in to start the 9th and will qualify for the save. However, if they are up 2, and score 3 in the bottom of the 8th, Rondon either doesn't come in to start the 9th, or if he does, it's not a save opportunity.


that makes sense! Thanks
Posted by JamalSanders
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

I guess my next question is, if a closer comes into the game where the lead is less than 3 runs and meets all those criteria...if his team keeps scoring runs (like the cubs guy) why does that blow his save as long as all those other criteria are met?




Like the other poster said a closer is usually just going to pitch one inning, the 9th. If a team were to put in a relieve in the 7th inning while being up by 2 runs and then that same team scored 2 in the 8th and 2 in the 9th to where they win by 6 runs. The relief pitcher would get credited with the save by virtue of having pitched for 3 innings and not relinquishing the lead.
Posted by Geauxing for 3
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 4:31 pm to
We have come a long way in a short period of time. It seems like it was just yesterday that Carlos Marmol was playing screw the Cubs.
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 4:56 pm to
Ha nice.
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