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Clay Travis on Schilling's Firing

Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70453 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:02 pm
Travis has been a notorious troll, but as sad as this is, he becomes the voice of reason every now and then.

That was the case today with this piece he wrote. LINK
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
52824 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:04 pm to
Clay and Jason Whitlock did great work on the Mizzou nonsense. I think they should get a free pass on a lot of stupidity just because of that.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80114 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:05 pm to
Clay Travis is incredibly smart, even when he's trolling.

I read that piece and it's really good.
Posted by Aggie Fishfinder
Republic of Texas
Member since Feb 2012
4260 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:06 pm to
Here is a pic he tweeted about the ESPN double standard.

Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
4961 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

What ESPN is really saying is: "We're an inclusive company. Unless you disagree with us, in which case we're exclusive. And you're fired."
Posted by agalloch
Portland, OR
Member since Jun 2015
1647 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:13 pm to
Clay clumsily extrapolates and flubs numbers all the time, but he's correct here, especially with how ESPN acted in a "lazy" way. I disagree with Schilling in almost every conceivable way, but firing somebody for saying something stupid in their personal internet "space" is a dangerous precedent to set. There's no room for nuance or debate, only knee-jerk reactions. Plus, identity politics derail from real issues like the shrinking middle class and wage stagnation. Giving more attention to shite that in the end doesn't really matter is harmful.
This post was edited on 4/21/16 at 4:15 pm
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:13 pm to
Eddie George fricked his wife and he's still in denial. frick that plagiarist douche.
Posted by Mr Personality
Bangkok
Member since Mar 2014
27364 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:16 pm to
Firing people over internet shite has been around way before this
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36565 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

Think about it this way, it used to be that comparatively few people knew your political leanings or your position on hot button social issues, now people feel compelled to share those opinions online with everyone. Often, ridiculously, in "humorous" memes. I've never shared a political Internet meme on social media because in my experience it's the surest way to establish that you have an IQ below 100, but it's fair to say that such sharing is common in our society today. Curt Schilling has millions of company on both the left and right wings of our political spectrum when it comes to sharing political memes online.



He losses the right to post stupid memes on facebook when you become an employee/public figure of pretty liberal company. He can still spill whatever BS he wants to on here, reddit, 4chan, tumblr and ect without his job being threatened.


quote:

The simple truth is this -- if you look like a dude you can use the men's bathroom and if you look like a woman you can use the women's bathroom. That's our societal standard. It has always been our societal standard and it isn't remotely controversial.



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We don't need courts or laws or states to get involved with this situation. This isn't a pressing societal issue demanding redress -- or really an issue at all. It impacts, maybe, at the absolute most, somewhere well beneath one percent of the United States population. It is almost impossible for politicians to fixate on a less pressing issue that demands their attention.


100% agree but that really doesn't matter. ESPN was sick of having a low level baseball analysts causing them problems
This post was edited on 4/21/16 at 4:28 pm
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:21 pm to
My question is this, what if you've been warned by your employer multiple times about the things you've posted on social media (I believe this is Schilling's 4th slip up).
Posted by agalloch
Portland, OR
Member since Jun 2015
1647 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:25 pm to
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My question is this, what if you've been warned by your employer multiple times about the things you've posted on social media (I believe this is Schilling's 4th slip up).


I mean, this is the same dude who is ~$50 million in debt after a long Major League career. He doesn't have the best track record in making good decisions. ESPN made a perfectly fine decision from a PR point of view, but it's definitely lazy.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124112 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:27 pm to
Link?
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36565 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

Sure, Disney is a liberal corporation, but what if someone works at Hobby Lobby, a conservative corporation, and posts a strong belief in the right to abortion or birth control? Should Hobby Lobby be able to fire them for that opinion because their opinion differs with Hobby Lobby's?



this is just extremely dishonest. No one gives shite what some branch manager of hobby lobby with 8 followers tweets. If it did bring the company a bunch of heat he would be canned


my contract with my employer plainly says I can fired for stuff I say on the internet
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57610 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:28 pm to
The question is when do we start putting urinals in women's bathrooms? Since whatever junk you bring in there doesn't seem to matter anymore. Shame on those establishments for not thinking of the pre-op transgendered people!
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6069 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

but firing somebody for saying something stupid in their personal internet "space" is a dangerous precedent to set

That precedent was set by employers across the country a long time ago.
He was fired because of bigotry, not his political opinions.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:32 pm to
That was a bit of a tongue and cheek joke. Travis does block people on twitter when it's mentioned that his wife fricked Eddie George while she was a cheerleader for the Titans. Ironically, Clay Travis feels completely comfortable calling other people out on the internet about their extramartial issues

I've never liked the dude after he clearly plagiarized a friend of mines article. Yet, gets extremely defensive about the entire issue.
This post was edited on 4/21/16 at 4:34 pm
Posted by agalloch
Portland, OR
Member since Jun 2015
1647 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:34 pm to
Yeah, the more I think about it, I agree this shite has been going on forever. In the end ESPN really has almost nothing to lose in canning his arse. So what, they made a bunch of evangelicals mad? They already hate ESPN. Either let him stick around and be forced to deal with the BS that comes with employing a high-profile idiot who spouts off racist and bigoted nonsense or just cut him loose and be done with it. The double-standard thing is definitely true with ESPN, but nobody forced him to work for them. It's no secret.
This post was edited on 4/21/16 at 4:39 pm
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
102945 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:35 pm to
Great article.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

ESPN really has almost nothing to lose in canning his arse.
This.

They will find someone else to talk about baseball. They don't need the dude that continually promotes controversial memes on facebook.
Posted by Dale Murphy
God's Country
Member since Feb 2005
24454 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:42 pm to
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If it did bring the company a bunch of heat he would be canned


Exactly how much heat do you honestly think he brought ESPN with that picture. Take into account who is followers most likely are. This is just another example of a company looking to fire someone that doesn't toe the progressive line. And the fact that so many are ok with it is almost as bad as the firing itself.
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