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Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:17 pm
Posted by OKIETigerT
Louisiana
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:17 pm
Does anyone else think the big12 should expand and what teams should they add?? I think Houston and BYU would be very good additions. this isn't sec or LSU but it's very relevant to college football
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:18 pm to
I think central Florida would be a good add for them.
Posted by OKIETigerT
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
87 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:19 pm to
Yes or possibly somebody up in the West Virginia area. Cincy could add a rivalry. Memphis could compete.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8709 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:54 pm to
Why? How would adding two crappy to mediocre programs help them?

It's not going to hurt OU this year.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 11:56 pm
Posted by QuackAttack716
Member since Aug 2011
1377 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 12:35 am to
quote:

Does anyone else think the big12 should expand


No. No schools out there that would bring in enough money to make splitting the pot 12 ways instead of 10 ways worth it.

eta - Should have added Louisville before Louisville went to the ACC. But now, there aren't two teams out there that are worth adding
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 12:36 am
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 1:25 am to
No Round Robin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2 divisions
Posted by PAGator
Member since Jul 2015
2339 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:29 am to
They should just pull the plug now before it becomes the Big East and all find new homes.
Posted by BeYou
DFW
Member since Oct 2012
6022 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:48 am to
quote:

No. No schools out there that would bring in enough money to make splitting the pot 12 ways instead of 10 ways worth it.


I'm not for expansion but I do think BYU would bring in enough money to make it worth splitting. Not sure on a 12th team though.
Posted by Socratics
Virginia Beach
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 5:29 am to
quote:

I'm not for expansion but I do think BYU would bring in enough money to make it worth splitting. Not sure on a 12th team though


This

BYU and Houston are the best candidates for the Big 12 and neither are anywhere close to home-run additions. They do nothing more than fill 2 spots, take money, and add little back to the Big 12.



Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
54670 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 5:33 am to
Mizzou should be kicked out of the SEC and go to the B12.

ATM should do the same. That way UT and ATM would re-new their rivaly
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
10499 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 6:25 am to
quote:

Why? How would adding two crappy to mediocre programs help them?


i don't know, it didn't seem to hurt the SEC when they added a&m.
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 6:30 am to
quote:

I think Houston and BYU


BYU won't work because of the no playing on Sunday's issue since many of the sports play on Sunday. They won't look to add Houston most likely, they don't want to add another Texas team.

They don't need to expand since they will be able to play a Championship game next year since the stupid committee says you need to have one.(which is stupid since everyone plays everyone during the season so you actually determine the best team during the season; as long as the tie break rules are in place like this season)
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 7:33 am to

upvote for posting this on the right board.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 7:56 am to
What exactly do you think Houston would add to the conference?
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 8:32 am to
Cincy and either 1. Memphis 2. BYU 3. Colorado St. 4. Houston, 5. UCF/USF
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 8:42 am to
They might as well revert back to the old Southwest Conference if they add another Texas school. They should look to add Louisville or Cincinnati.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40062 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Does anyone else think the big12 should expand and what teams should they add?? I think Houston and BYU would be very good additions. this isn't sec or LSU but it's very relevant to college football


The BigXII should have expanded when Colorado and Nebraska left, but Texas was coming off a season when they had to have the refs "review" a play and put time back on the clock for them to make the national championship game, and they thought not having a championship game would make that easier. So they didn't. They should have added New Mexico and CSU in 2010.

The BigXII should have grabbed Louisville and ND or Cincy in addition to TCU and WVU in 2011.

Now they need to go east and forget BYU. The BigXII needs to go to 14 (they already own the trademark for the the big14 conference so name is no big deal). The Big12 currently has the smallest population foot print of the P5 conferences so adding a team in a state that you already have a team in is a no-no. I think they should add:
1. Memphis
2. Cincy
3. NIU
4. Temple

That would increase the BigXIV (new name for big12) an expanded footprint and would connect WVU to the rest of the conference. They could also stick with the old north-south division alignment:
BigXIV North:
Temple
WVU
Cincy
NIU
ISU
KSU
Kansas

BigXIV South:
OSU
OU
TCU
TTU
Baylor
UT
Memphis
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16400 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 9:01 am to
Damn, North would be filled with cupcakes. Very unbalanced.....kind of like the Big 10 West and SEC East.
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
10499 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 9:08 am to
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WeeWee


what would be the point of this? all it would do is waterdown the conference athletically and academically. i would hate to play any of memphis/cincy/niu/temple, unless it was a non-con filler game to open the season.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40062 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 9:14 am to
quote:

Damn, North would be filled with cupcakes. Very unbalanced.....kind of like the Big 10 West and SEC East.




I prefer geographically based regions, but the BigXIV could also do like the ACC or the BIG originally did and split the teams up randomly.

DivisionA:
Temple
Cincy
KSU
OSU
Texas
TCU
Memphis

DivisionB:
WVU
NIU
ISU
Kansas
OU
Bayor
TTU

Or my personal favorite is to deregulate the conference championship games (supposed to be discussed and voted on this january) so that conferences don't need divisions and the 2 teams with the best conference records play in the CCG.
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