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Apparently the Heisman snub has been around since the award's inception

Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:09 am
Posted by CJD4LSU
Ray-Vegas, La
Member since Sep 2006
3504 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:09 am
I came across this link today, while looking at facebook. I had no idea that some of the winners, of the most prestigious award sports, posted such horrible numbers, during their Heisman campaign. Some of these are just head scratchers.


Top 10 Heisman Snubs
Posted by LST
Member since Jan 2007
16316 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:12 am to
Looks like Notre Dame has been screwing people out of Heismans for years.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
52989 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:13 am to
Thought for sure Peyton would be on here.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73142 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:13 am to
interesting they dont have eric crouch's win over grossman on there
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:15 am to
Ed Marinaro over Pat Sulivan He was robbed
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21556 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:35 am to
I don't think Tim Brown snubbed the Syracuse QB at all IMO.

Brown was an electric player. Sure, those numbers look average, but look at the era and offense in which he played. I don't think anybody can argue Tim Brown wasn't the best player in CFB that year.

Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27304 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:44 am to
I want to know why Melvin Gordon wasn't thought to have a chance. He rushed for the 4th-most yards in FBS history (and still has 1 game left to break the record). He broke the single-game rushing record in only 3 quarters. And his 7.6 yards per carry for his career is the most in FBS history.

He had a record-setting, monster season.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 8:49 am
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17109 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:51 am to
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PrimeTime Money


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I want to know why Melvin Gordon wasn't thought to have a chance.


It's because the Heisman is a complete shame. It isn't what it claims to be, "The best player in college football."

Sweet so how many offensive lineman have won?


I put much more stock in the individual position awards. I think those mean more.
Posted by CJD4LSU
Ray-Vegas, La
Member since Sep 2006
3504 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Looks like Notre Dame has been screwing people out of Heismans for years


Lol, this was the thing that jumped out at me too.
Posted by gameovergt
Orange Park, FL via Stevenson, AL
Member since Nov 2010
1963 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:54 am to
I agree about Gordon! Wisky had no passing game to think of and he still ran free!
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25058 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:57 am to
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I want to know why Melvin Gordon wasn't thought to have a chance.


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He rushed for the 4th-most yards in FBS history (and still has 1 game left to break the record).


The problem with that argument is that it compares apples to oranges. Many players in FBS history played in only 10 or 11 games and bowl games didn't count. Gordon will get to play in 14. By way of example, Barry Sanders averaged 238.9 ypg in 1988.

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He broke the single-game rushing record in only 3 quarters.


Unfortunately for him, that record stood precisely one week until Samaje Perine went for 427 yards in a 41-7 win over Kansas. For the record Perine, had precisely two carries in the fourth quarter of that one (he did use 9 more carries in his game, though). Say what you want, the point isn't to compare them, it just took the luster off of his accomplishment.

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And his 7.6 yards per carry for his career is the most in FBS history.



Dude is a beast. The problem is that things kept nerfing his hype. Breaks the record, it falls the next week. Drags Wisconsin to prosperity, gets disciplined by Meyer.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30007 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:58 am to
Look how many of those snubs were as a result of the media sobbing Notre Dame's knob.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6364 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:59 am to
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I want to know why Melvin Gordon wasn't thought to have a chance. He rushed for the 4th-most yards in FBS history (and still has 1 game left to break the record). He broke the single-game rushing record in only 3 quarters. And his 7.6 yards per carry for his career is the most in FBS history. He had a record-setting, monster season.


It's a QB award now.

Gordon has had a great year. But his single game record lasted a week, and his chances of getting the season record (in 14 games) are slim. He should get to 3rd, but since he's already decided to enter the draft who knows how much effort he'll give in the bowl game.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27304 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:06 am to
It was weird though... it's like the media treated it like a foregone conclusion that Mariota was going to win and there were no others who were even really in the conversation.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 9:07 am
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25058 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:06 am to
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Look how many of those snubs were as a result of the media sobbing Notre Dame's knob.


Reminds me of this stat line getting in Canton.

G Att Comp Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck SckY Rate

140 3,762 1,886 50.1 26.9 27,663 7.4 197.6 173 4.6 220 5.8 91 0 0 150 1,425 65.5
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:09 am to
The Heisman is a joke.....it NOW goes to the best player on the best team. I would have had no problem with any of the 3 winning the award.

It also proves the bias that has been part of ND football from the beginning.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83392 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:18 am to
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The problem with that argument is that it compares apples to oranges. Many players in FBS history played in only 10 or 11 games and bowl games didn't count. Gordon will get to play in 14. By way of example, Barry Sanders averaged 238.9 ypg in 1988.


Gordon got to 2000 in fewer carries than anyone in history.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23106 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:23 am to
1995 was not a snub. They basically even admit as much in the writing here. Eddie had over 1900 yards. I get that people think Frazier should have won but "snub?"
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32775 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:38 am to
Looking at both his stats and his team's record, Hornung winning it was ridiculous.
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32775 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:39 am to
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1995 was not a snub. They basically even admit as much in the writing here. Eddie had over 1900 yards. I get that people think Frazier should have won but "snub?"


Agreed.
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